‘Mattress Girl’ and some other high-profile rape allegations

There’s been a lot happening on North American campuses with regards to the evolving debate regarding consent, sexual assault, and freedom to discuss gender issues. As a result I have incorporated related information into several pre-existing posts in this blog, including for example:

On the feminist myth of ‘rape culture’
On the issue of consent
On false allegations of sexual assault and/or domestic abuse

Earlier today I read a new article entitled ‘Diagnosed with Liberalism‘. It addresses the peculiar behaviour of social justice warriors (‘SJW’), with special mention being made of the infamous case of ‘The Mattress Girl‘.

Reading that article prompted me to create a new post just dealing with that case, and with some other similar incidents. All of which, it would seem, have either been proven to be false or are widely considered to be highly dubious. I think I am also right in saying that in each case legal action is being pursued by the male accused against the relevant university.

1. Emma Sulkowicz (aka ‘Mattress Girl or ‘Mattress Mule’) – Columbia University, New York

Columbia student: I didn’t rape her (3 February 2015) One of many articles about female university student, Emma Sulkowicz, who carried a mattress all around her campus after claiming she had been raped.

After Cathy Young’s article came the feminist backlash (example), and here is one of the related reddit discussion threads about the case and linked article.

Here are some important words on the issue from COTWA, and another good article that addresses mindset surrounding this episode. And now the accused male student is taking the matter to court. See for example, ‘Lawyers for Emma Sulkowicz’s Alleged Rapist Accuse Her of Misandry‘ (25 June 2015)

But wait there’s more … Emma featured in a sex tape. And then
‘Mattress Girl’ Now Doing Lewd Bondage Performances as New ‘Art Project’ (25 May 2017)

The young man accussed of rape, Paul Nungesser, later sued Columbia University and lost that case (see related Reddit discussion thread here). Further developments are anticipated.

Columbia student: The damage done by ‘Mattress Girl’ (17 June 2016)

Columbia University has settled with the male student accused in the “mattress girl” rape case (16 July 2017)

Not even sexual assault counselor who talked to ‘Mattress Girl’ thinks she was raped (28 July 2017)

The Mattress Girl saga (6 September 2017) A Sargon of Akkad video

2. The Rolling Stone/UVA rape hoax – University of Virginia 

‘Fake gang rape’ defamation trial against Rolling Stone journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely gets ugly (22 October 2016)

Lawyers for Rolling Stone’s “Jackie” may have withheld “Haven Monahan” documents (26 May 2016)

The UVA Story Unravels: Feminist Agitprop and Rape-Hoax Denialism (8 December 2014)

The Rape of Credibility: Feminism’s Agenda and the Jackie Coakley Scandal (9 December 2014)

See also ‘The UVA Case and Rape-Hoax Denial‘ (30 March 2015) and ‘Rebalance the campus sex assault scales‘ (29 March 2015)

Girl who cried UVa. gang rape pretended to be her rapist to win a boy, lawyers say (9 February 2016) with related reddit discussion thread here

3. University of Ottawa

Member of men’s hockey team writes open letter to Allan Rock, and related reddit discussion thread

University of Ottawa Gee-Gees hockey players file $6M lawsuit (13 January 2015)

4. Ched Evans

Why the fallout from the Ched Evans verdict puts all our sons at risk (18 October 2016)

British Soccer Star Ched Evans Found Not Guilty Of Rape After Years Of Abuse From Feminists (17 October 2016)

See also:

Is UNC Campus Rape Heroine Actually a Campus Rape Hoaxer? by Cathy Young (1 May 2017)

Why Hasn’t Jackie Coakley Been Punished For Starting The Biggest Rape Hoax Of The Decade? (16 January 2016) USA

Nightmare on North Avenue (25 November 2015) USA

Another high-profile rape accusation falls apart (5 November 2015)

The Lessons of Stanford’s Sex-Assault-Case Reversal (4 November 2015)

What sort of rape hoaxer are you, feminist? (14 September 2015)

Central Allegation in The Hunting Ground Collapses Under Scrutiny (1 June 2015)

How to deal with false rape allegations (7 April 2015)

Disturbing false rape claim at Purdue University and similar news (February 2015) Reddit mensrights discussion thread with links to various article

Here Are EIGHT Campus Rape Hoaxes Eerily Like The UVA Rape Story (14 December 2014)

Stanford grad students want men accused of rape kicked off campus altogether while the school’s investigation drags on for months, and related reddit discussion thread (4 June 2014)

Regarding the notion of ‘ironic misandry’

August 2014 saw the publication of a number of articles discussing an unfortunate development in the gender debate that has been labelled ‘ironic misandry’.

Misandry is, of course, the irrational fear and loathing of men. These articles spawned the #MaleTears hashtag on Twitter, as well as the production and marketing of a range of products on the theme, such as coffee mugs and t-shirts.

The Rise of the Ironic Man Hater by Amanda Hess (8 August 2014)
Me and my #MaleTears: Facing the consequences of ironic hatred by Ally Fogg (10 August 2014)
Ironic Misandry: Why Feminists Pretending to Hate Men isn’t Funny by Sarah Begley (12 August 2014)
Hating men isn’t funny, says writer who doesn’t get good jokes by Dayna Evans (12 August 2014)
Your Guide to Understanding Ironic Misandry by Clementine Ford (26 August 2014)

pennyI loathe the concept of ironic misandry and see it as yet another symptom of an ideology that has gone seriously off the rails. Here’s why:

1. Ironic misandry is entirely at odds with the credo of ‘do unto others’

According to Wikipedia, “the Golden Rule or ethic of reciprocity is a maxim, ethical code or morality that essentially states either of the following:

  • One should treat others as one would like others to treat oneself
  • One should not treat others in ways that one would not like to be treated

This concept describes a reciprocal, or two-way, relationship between one’s self and others that involves both sides equally, and in a mutual fashion.

Many of us think of ‘do unto others’ as being a Christian credo, but the same or similar phrase is common to many religions and cultures across history. That’s no accident. ‘Do unto others’ is a noble and eminently sound ideal that would be understood and supported by most reasonable people.

Ironic misandry runs contrary to how I want to treat others or be treated myself. Ironic misandry does not represent how I want my friends and family to be treated, and I don’t think it’s how most women want their male friends or family members to be treated. And don’t even try to suggest that mocking men is different because … patriarchy.

And in terms of the community generally, how would most women would react were this concept to be turned back onto them in the form of ‘ironic misogyny’? But more on that later.

 2. Ironic misandry isn’t ironic

The definition of ‘irony’ is:

  • the expression of one’s meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
  • a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.

But the indisputable fact is that real life feminists don’t believe or act in the opposite manner, i.e. treat men in a loving and respectful manner. Look at my posts on feminism, feminist anger, and feminist censorship for examples of what feminists say about men and how they treat them. Heck, just look at comments by Clementine Ford in her paper listed above, or Samantha Allen in this article.

Clementine Ford describes the “I bathe in male tears” logo and associated paraphernalia as “one glorious phrase and a handful of beautiful associated memes“. She goes on to state that “images such as the above pillory the buffoonery of the MRA movement while giving increasingly stressed out and undermined women a means of laughing at the enemy.”

valentiSo despite the fact that feminists are always telling us how they don’t hate men, Clementine has no qualms about referring to us as “the enemy“. (Oh I get it, just joking, right?)

Ironic misandry isn’t rocking the boat with regards to the status quo – it’s reinforcing it.

The proponents of ironic misandry consider it first and foremost a humorous invention. I beg to differ. As would, I would suggest, most mature adults concerned about social justice and the welfare of men and boys. In fact pretty much anyone with an ounce of empathy, a conscience, and a brain in their head. Either way, you can’t change sexist bigotry into something else just by claiming it is funny. As they say, “a monkey in silk is a monkey no less“.

Regardless of the selective blindness of feminists, many men and boys are suffering and their tears are very real. For example, we have just experienced the suicide of comic genius Robin Williams, at a time when the suicide rate for men is substantially greater than for women. Ditto for homelessness, etc.

3. Ironic misandry erodes mutual respect between the genders

Ironic misandry removes even further respect between the genders, when mutual respect is an essential ingredient in moving onwards and upwards with the gender debate. We need to be doing everything we can to build respect not eroding it further. Ironic misandry and other feminist devices like it will condemn us to many more years of lobbing grenades from trench to trench instead of working together to address a multitude of issues of shared concern.

Given that that the original ‘Slate’ article has been addressed by others, I’ll conclude this post with some comments in relation to the paper by Clementine Ford which I found to be particularly noisome:

MRAs will have you believe that misandry is:
a) rampant within the feminist community and
b) capable of causing equal if not greater harm to men than millennia of oppression and disadvantage could ever possibly do to women.

As I indicated earlier misandry IS rampant within the feminist community, as is feminist denial about that fact. I challenge you to assume a male identity and go online and try to post reasonable comments in debates regarding gender, and see how you are treated. How you are are routinely abused. How your posts are removed. How often you are banned, excluded, denied a voice.

Oh, and by the way Clementine, didn’t you/your editor close your article to comments so very quickly once the expected support failed to materialise? Let’s see what reader Jane was able to contribute before the shutters came down on your sideshow:

Baffled to why teenage girls don’t describe themselves as feminists? Re-read this article and imagine yourself as a teenage girl looking for relevance to her life. Instead of a reasoned argument, inspiration or anything that might be impacting her now or in the future, Clem “click-bait” Ford delivers a short rant on why it’s fun to ridicule certain people on the internet. Sure it might be a “release valve” to Ford who must have to deal with some crazy nutters on the internet but if this is the only article they read on feminism this week while asking, “Am I a feminist?” then I can understand why many, a few or even one young woman might reply, “If this is feminism, then no.”

Feminists just love to exaggerate the position of MRA with assertions like “MRA claim that men are more oppressed than women”, “MRA would have you believe that everything bad that happens to men is because of women”, and so on, and on. Can Clementine point us towards even one reference where MRA have stated that misandry can cause more harm than all the oppression and disadvantage ever experienced by women? Of course, she can’t – because no MRA ever made such a statement.

“Misogyny and misandry are treated by MRAs as interchangeable things, with the latter being widely viewed as ‘just as bad, if not worse’.” 

No, MRA treat these as two distinct things. The fact that some MRA might consider ‘misandry’ to be worse, is due only to the level of denial and hypocrisy within the feminist movement (regarding their inherent misandry), and the resultant chasm between how feminists demand to be treated and how they treat others.

“Feminism seeks to dismantle the patriarchy, thus liberating both women and men from its suffocating clutches.”

OK, Clementine, please provide some examples of feminism “liberating” men from anything.

“Humour is a vital tool for feminists lest we lose our marbles completely when dealing with the irrational and factually incorrect bleatings of people who, among other things, argue that sexual violence statistics have been made up by feminist run government agencies to oppress man’s sexual nature.”

Clementine, some examples please of statements made by MRA that are “factually incorrect”, or where MRA have claimed that sexual violence statistics were made up … “to oppress man’s sexual nature”. MRA have highlighted inaccuracies and distortions within statistics related to domestic violence, sexual assault, and other issues. I invite you to examine and comment upon the many examples that are provided in my blog posts on these topics. MRA raise these concerns only in the interest of enabling informed public debate based on a balanced and accurate portrayal of these important social issues.

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4. Gender reversal: What happens when a man attempts ironic misogyny?

In 2010 Paul Elam published an article entitled ‘October is the 5th annual Bash a Violent Bitch Month‘ in response to an earlier article in the feminist journal ‘Jezebel’. Although Paul has always asserted his article was satirical, years later it is still cited by feminists as proof of the alleged hideous misogyny of the men’s rights movement. A well-written discussion of Paul’s article can be found here.

In early 2016, Daryush ‘Roosh’ Valizadeh hit the headlines across the world when it was reported that he supported the legalisation of rape. This is what he actually wrote. Roosh’s article is explained further in ‘What Roosh’s satire exposed about modern-day socialism’.

Did feminists extend the same patience and understanding towards Paul’s or Roosh’s ironic offerings, to which they themselves felt entitled? Absolutely not, and in Roosh’s case both he and his supporters were subjected to a global campaign of harassment and threats of violence. Yes, the very same behaviour that feminists angrily assert that men oppress women with. Anyway read both this article and this one, and you can form your own view.

Moving forward to June 2016, and Australian TV personality Eddie McGuire chose to offer up a little of his own brand of irony. Team feminism went ballistic. And on and on they went:

I refuse to date men who like footy, by Koraly Dimitriadis (13 July 2016)
Time to call BS on the ‘just jokes’ defence, by Chris Bath (28 June 2016)
There can be a fine line between humour and menace in blokes banter, by David Penberthy (26 June 2016) Male self-loathing tosh (**Then read a good rebuttal by Mark Dent here**)
This is what happens when you call out sexism in Australia (25 June 2016)
Police: Don’t take McGuire’s comments lightly (23 June 2016)

And finally,  Miranda Devine’s sensible comments on the matter here

See also:

The evidence is mounting – a man’s place is in the home (4 November 2017) I don’t see the humour here but the author, Hadley Freeman, claims it’s satire:

Hadley’s article was very similar to this 27 October 2017 article in Slate.com

In this article Irish feminists reject the notion of misandry (October 2017)

“It is impossible to have an “ingrained prejudice” against men when we live in a world made by men for men. In a patriarchal society, the idea of men who are oppressed by virtue of their gender could never be anything but a joke.

Clementine Ford: This is the personal price I pay for speaking out online (13 July 2017) Such a martyr to the cause of misandry. And “a message that was quite clearly withering satire” Oh yes. Clearly. Because vagina.

Men shouldn’t get offended by people saying that “men are trash”  (12 July 2017) Reddit discussion thread

Michelle Carter found guilty by judge in text message suicide case (16 June 2017) USA

Why you should think twice before laughing at that rape joke online (8 June 2017) Clementine Ford rails against “dark humour” – now that’s ironic

I am so sick of people acting like “misandry” is equivalent to misogyny (1 June 2017) These feminists won’t even concede that misandry is a thing.

Forget your PC nonsense, this hormone needs to be banned from workplaces (29 May 2017)

Bad Girls Advice members call for the group to be shut down after posts made fun of terror attack (24 May 2017) In this case, not so much ‘ironic misandry’ as ‘ironic misanthropy’

‘Anti-feminism’ posters at American University investigated as a ‘hate crime’ (10 March 2017)

The one question I’d like to ask those who defend Wicked Campers’ vile ‘humour’ by Clementine Ford (19 February 2017)

Woman urges people to ‘murder all male babies’ (24 January 2017)

Women kicking balls, I’d like to see that (22 January 2017) New Australian women’s football ad campaign

Hwages: Music clip sparks debate, celebration in Saudi Arabia (5 January 2017)

#KillAllMen: A feminist play at Australia’s National Institute Dramatic Art (October 2016) as discussed in this blog post

“Eight women create an internet utopia where they discuss the most intimate details of their lives, the most righteous, and the most hilarious. Dating, camming, work, love, and how to be an out and proud feminist. But when one of them disappears after being attacked everything changes. #KillAllMen suddenly moves from joke to reality.”

Feminists treat men badly. It’s bad for feminism, by Cathy Young (30 June 2016)

Now this IS ironic (25 May 2016) USA

Oscar-winning actress Emma Thompson’s diversity solution: ‘Kill’ all the old white men (13 February 2016) UK

Men: Here are ten perfect holiday gifts for the feminist in your life (21 December 2015) So a Masters in Gender Studies qualifies someone to write articles like this … impressive

The Year in Male Tears (21 December 2015) and related reddit discussion thread

Some people sadly missed the point about #MasculinitySoFragile (24 September 2015) with related reddit discussion thread here

Hateful Guardian writer Julie Bindel proposes Feminazi concentration camps for all men (5 September 2015) Further good paper on this issue here (The Other McCain)

Ironic Misandry Claims Its First Victim, by Amanda Hess (22 May 2015) and here is other side of this story

The irony of ironic misandry (13 May 2015)

‘Rape prevention tips’ go viral. Upset men (23 March 2015)

29 Perfect Accessories For All Women Who Don’t Give A F*ck (22 March 2015)

And of course it’s definitely NOT funny should some men attempt to start their own campaign with a similarly whimsical theme (16 March 2015)

Feminists are bad comedians (15 March 2015)

http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/2d0wax/tw_not_tumblr_men_that_dont_laugh_at_ironic/ (the disscussion thread from which the discussion thread extract shown above was sourced)

No, we don’t literally want to ban men. But 2014 was the year women got even (16 December 2014)

Samantha Allen explains why she hates men (7 November 2014) An example of not-so-ironic misandry

Deprogramming women’s hatred of men (10 September 2014)

The ironical irony of ironic misandry (4 September 2014)

Clementine cashes in (12 September 2013)

Clementine Ford on “those accusations” and what motivates her activism (22 August 2014)

Clementine Ford calling fellow feminists stupid (8 May 2012)

More bleating from Clementine Ford by Greg Canning (3 June 2012)

Down under news roundup by Greg Canning (14 September 2013) Refer para.6

The Misandry Choir by Andy Bob (31 December 2012)

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Beware the ire of an angry feminist

Whilst most of them labour on in denial, the fact is that feminists can be particularly spiteful and relentless in the manner in which they attack those who question or criticise their jaundiced view of the world. Although not according to this feminist:

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Feminists are also not averse to turning on allies, particularly the men who openly support them (for examples see 12/ 34/ 5/ 6/ 7/ 89). Wow, don’t they just love dishing it out?

Consider the vendetta against Tanveer Ahmed, which you can read about in this blog post. Consider the reaction to a pro-feminist initiative by students at Sydney Boys High School. And the list goes on and on.

Now as I mentioned in the “About this blog” post, women who publicly defend men and men’s rights issues are especially loathed by feminists. Click on this hyperlink and read an example of some conservative women who wound up with targets on their backs in this manner.

And two more examples of women targeted by feminists are Erin Pizzey and Catherine Hakim:

Erin Patria Margaret Pizzey is an English family care activist and a novelist. She became internationally famous for having started one of the first women’s refuges (called women’s shelters in the U.S.) in the modern world, Chiswick Women’s Aid, in 1971, the organisation known today as Refuge. Pizzey has been the subject of death threats and boycotts because of her stance that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally as capable of violence as men. Further details about Erin here and here

Catherine Hakim is a British sociologist who specializes in women’s employment and women’s issues. She has worked in British central government, and as a Senior Research Fellow in the London School of Economics. She is currently a Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for Policy Studies. She has published extensively on labour market topics, women’s employment, sex discrimination, social and family policy, as well as social statistics and research design. She has published over 100 articles in academic journals and edited collections, and over a dozen textbooks and research monographs. She is best known for developing preference theory and her criticism of many feminist assumptions about women’s employment.

Apparently even worse still are women who not only criticize feminism, but do so on the basis of its overt misogyny towards women. This is discussed in a post by a well-known female MRA, Alison Tieman.

The high-tide line of the spectrum of feminist outrage may well be Claire Khaw, a (partway serious and partway tongue-in-cheek) social commentator who maintains blogs called the ‘Battlefield of Love‘ and ‘The Voice of Reason‘. A little strong for the sensibilities of many, yet at the same time probably a fitting counterpoint to ghastly feminist commentators like Anita Sarkeesian or Amanda Marcotte. Here is one of Claire’s recent items.

And yet at the same time, feminists have a deeply unenviable propensity to quickly play the ‘frightened and oppressed victim’ card should the tables be turned (aka ‘cry bully’).

Perhaps the most common way in which feminists lash out is through employing what is known as shaming tactics. At other times, though their response can include tactics such as online bullying, stalking and threats, and/or the lodgement of false or exaggerated claims to Twitter/ISP’s/etc in order to have the accounts of their targets closed.

In another post I talk about a recent Australian example involving the ‘Sunrise’ TV show. In one of the media articles that ensued, Michael Lallo suggested that only feminist women posting online attracted threats of violence/death … with of course the threats being made by men.

Well Michael, time to open your eyes and wake up … and you can start by checking out these sources:

Feminist aligned terrorists promote violence and share tactics openly on Facebook: New meme: “If You Own a Meninist Shirt L Will Not Hesitate to Stab You” (5 December 2016) Reddit discussion thread with linked article.

The Dark Web of Feminist Political Agenda (24 June 2016) Australia

A 19 Year Old Liberal-Feminist Tries to Kill a Street Preacher Because “Words” Hurt Her Feelings (29 May 2016) USA

Feminists and white knights plan vendetta against author of the ‘Return of Kings’ web site (2 February 2016) Australia. Feel the hate and see the spittle around the mouths of those who have probably never read a single article within the ROK site. Check out the surfeit of shaming language in this Daily Mail article. But this article is the most worrying of all – the hypocrisy of people who claim to be opposed to violence, only to then encourage others with that goal in mind.

Academic finds 84 serious threats of violence directed at Roosh and Return Of Kings readers (13 March 2017)

Women’s hate, violence and death threats (November 2013)

Women and white knight’s hate at Stephen A. Smith (July 2014)

Attack on the home of the founder of the group ‘Fathers 4 Justice’ (28 July 2014)

University prof pleads ‘no contest’ after attack on pro-life students (25 July 2014)

Irate women screams at pro-life kids: “No uterus … no right to talk about it!” (11 July 2014)

Feminist Declaration of War Against the Non-Feminist World, by Fidelbogen (9 April 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/when-is-a-death-threat-funny/ (27 November 2011)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/allnews/swedish-dissenting-feminist-receives-death-threats/ (18 January 2014)

Evidence Collection – Patterns of feminists making death threats (18 June 2013)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/when-feminists-attack/ (8 December 2011)

Feminist Enemy Number One. Christina Hoff Sommers might need a safe space (June 2015)

In addition:

See also:

‘I want patriarchy to fear women’: Mona Eltahawy says the time for being civil, peaceful and polite is over (28 September 2019)

Sandra Muller, France’s #MeToo creator, fined for defamation (25 September 2019)

The future is female. And she’s furious, by Cathy Young (28 January 2019) Recommended reading

Why feminists are bullies, in a nutshell (3 October 2018)

Anti-Brett Kavanaugh protesters go wild (October 2018) Video. USA

Russian feminist splashes bleach onto the crotchs of men sitting on public transport in order to protest ‘manspreading’ (27 September 2018) More here

Title IX Complaint Filed Against Professor Behind WashPo ‘Anti-Male’ Column (28 August 2018) This is regarding Professor Suzanna Danuta Walters who authored the infamous “Why Can’t We Hate Men?” column in the Washington Post

‘How I took the female cyber bully who used Facebook to ruin my life to court. And won’ (13 November 2017)

Distinguished Georgetown Prof Spreads Personal Info Of Political Opponents To Intimidate Them (22 May 2017)

‘Anti-feminism’ posters at American University investigated as a ‘hate crime’ (10 March 2017) I wish I could say that government agencies are above this type of absurdity, but …
UK Police Force Re-Educating 1,400 Officers To Treat Misogyny As ‘Hate Crime’ (9 March 2017)

To Milo or not to Milo? (21 February 2017) How the left neutralised a very annoying thorn  in their side. A story rich in hypocrisy given what various feminists/SJW have previously said & done & walked away from without penalty.

Good Word for the Contemptible Straight White Male, by Timothy Cootes (19 February 2017)

Islamic State using feminism to lure Australian women into becoming ‘Jihadi Brides’ (12 February 2017) This must be at, or close to, ‘peak stupid’.

Rebel reporter assaulted at Women’s March (22 January 2017) USA. Male feminist, Dion Bews, assaults female journalist then female feminists help him escape into the crowd and tell the journalist to “calm down”. Meanwhile, also at the Women’s March, an anti-Trump protester sets a girl’s hair on fire. What pathetic hypocrites these people are. And another article in a similar vein.

Anti-bullying advocate Roz Ward harasses bystander (21 November 2016)

Annaliese Nielson, founder of start-ups GodsGirls, Crushee, and the exclusive Los Angeles … decided to start an expletive filled tirade on a Lyft driver … Nielson took issue with the drivers bobble head figurine and was determined to create a violent confrontation (28 August 2016)

Feminism Has Enabled My Husband to Be Lazy and Selfish (26 August 2016) Further proof that only a masochist would marry a feminist. See related Reddit discussion thread here.

Feminist journalist: All men are rapists and should be put in prison and then shot (15 August 2016)

Feminazi Zealots Adopt Feminazi Zealot Tactics To Get An MP Sacked For Pointing Out Their ‘Zealotry’ (13 August 2016) UK

HuffPo Women’s editor, Alanna Vagianos, says that pointing out that most of those dying violently in the USA are men is “extremely offensive” and that those making this observation should STFU (12 July 2016)

George Christensen the most abused MP on Twitter, election analysis shows (1 July 2016) In Australia, conservative male politicians receive the most online abuse (no women in the top 20 … male privilege?)

Feminists treat men badly. It’s bad for feminism, by Cathy Young (30 June 2016) USA

On @Anne_Theriault and the Endless Futility of Feminist Revenge Fantasies (17 June 2016)

The Facebook Page Wars of 2016 : Profiling Rose S Garston (19 April 2016)

How A Torpedoed Kickstarter Campaign Unintentionally Revealed An Unlikely Unit of Cyber-Terrorists (18 April 2016) USA

These Are The Strange Cookies This Mom Brought To A 2nd Grade Class (5 April 2016) Feminist takes rejection badly

Student feminist group ‘Campus Witches’ attack a man while he eats his lunch after he harassed his ex on Twitter (1 April 2016)

The persecution of Sage Gerard at Kennesaw State University (KSU) (11 March 2016)

Anti-feminist activist Lauren Southern has urine poured on her (5 March 2016) Canada

Great Men Under Siege – The Fiamengo File Episode 14 (28 February 2016) Video

Brought Milo Yiannopoulos to Rutgers and Liberals Freaked Out (13 February 2016) USA

Sir Tim Hunt To Leave Britain: How Feminists Chased Away One of Britain’s Geniuses (18 December 2015)

If not for double-standards, she’d have none at all (1 December 2015) Australian feminist with a long history of perpetrating hateful online bigotry and abuse, has man sacked for calling her a ‘slut’

Feminist administrator and professor threaten male journalist with false accusations and ‘muscle’. This is what it’s like to be a college student in 2015 (10 November 2015)

Spain: feminist march against “gender violence” turns into anti-male cesspool. Also, a few women were assaulted for reclaiming equal support for men (9 November 2015) Reddit discussion thread

Feminist tries to get me fired: BACKFIRES SPECTACULARLY (3 November 2015)

She ain’t honest (Nurse Ratched) (29 September 2015) Discussion concerning feminist journalist Clementine Ford

Miranda Devine: Demonising men won’t stop domestic violence‘ … and here is an example of the predictably vicious and misleading feminist reaction: ‘Sorry Miranda Devine, but domestic violence isn’t a poor person’s problem’ (27 September 2015). Miranda responded to her feminist critics first with this article, and then this one.

Em Rusciano: Good riddance Mark Latham (17 August 2015) Australia

When ‘Slutwalk’ Feminists Attack Lauren Southern (25 June 2015)

You have to watch rabid feminists attack Daily Beast writer for daring to defend man accused of rape! (7 February 2015)

The hatred of the modern feminist (30 January 2015) Australia

Amanda Marcotte: The David Duke of Feminism (9 January 2015)

Vandalized: Residence of U-M Student Who Dared to Mock Trigger Warnings (15 December 2014)

‘All women should be banned from barber shops’ (26 November 2014)

One of BBC’S Top 100 Women in foul-mouthed attack on ‘InsideMan’ magazine  (21 November 2014)

Twitter is censoring accounts before a single tweet goes out (12 November 2014)

Opinion You’re Going To Hate: Women aren’t Oppressed, They’re Actually The Most Protected Class In Our Society (14 October 2014)

Don’t bully me because I’m a feminist (14 June 2013)

Is there a cyber war on women? (2 February 2014)

What @AdamRichman Learned (2 July 2014)

http://femalefedupwithfeminism.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/some-thoughts-on-feminists-shutting-down-those-who-dare-to-disagree/

Feminists post how-to guide on taking down Facebook pages with false reports

http://mensrightsarehumanrights.wordpress.com/2014/03/24/ellie-slee-likes-to-issue-threats-and-believes-that-this-is-acceptable-do-you/

http://j4mb.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/miss-ann-dree-mikebuchanan11-die-please/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/the-reaction-to-the-women-eating-on-the-tube-site-shows-exactly-how-sexist-hypocritical-and-humourless-feminism-can-be/

http://rooshnme.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/women-who-hate-women.html

A blog post about ongoing feminist attempts to discredit a lobby group serving the interest of people who have been falsely accused of sexual assault

List of links of women making online threats (Reddit discussion thread, September 2014)

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Here are some articles discussing hateful sexist diatribes by feminists about men

Julie Bindel calls for men to be jailed and then shot (15 August 2016)

The anti male language that you read about and shrug off as just venting hot headed feminism …is real. (6 June 2015) Reddit mensrights discussion thread

Petition To Have Bahar Mustafa, Goldsmith’s Diversity Officer, Who Tweeted ‘Kill All White Men’, Sacked Reaches 12,000 (20 May 2015)

#Howtospotafeminist the only guide you’ll ever need (6 May 2015)

‘Kill all Men’: Lib Dem activist in hate speech scandal (17 April 2015)

My comment to Jezebel regarding the feminist who aborted her male son (11 February 2015)

Samantha Allen is a feminist writer – here is a recent example of her work. Another article in which she proudly states that she hates men is discussed here (source article available here)

Reading feminist theory (23 August 2014)

When they fuck us (29 July 2014)

Can feminists do anything on their own? (15 August 2014)

Meet the woman who wants to reduce the male population by 90% “for peace” (22 August 2014)

Add these to the misandry Hall of Fame (19 June 2014)

Abolish the white race, abolish men – presentation by a feminist in a public library (2 June 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/radfem-hub-the-underbelly-of-a-hate-movement/

https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/421485004426711040/photo/1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJGZM2jtMpg

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http://www.cultural-misandry.com/feminism-the-hate-group-2/

http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2010/10/07/a-rant/ http://imgur.com/4EZHcLc (‘Feminism vs decency’)

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Related posts within this blog include:

About feminism & feminist antipathy towards issues faced by men
Regarding online harassment
On violence carried out by women and girls
On the censorship of non-feminist perspectives and opinions

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Don’t talk to me! No wait. Talk to me!

Those of you who have spent time in Asian countries might have noticed a lot of western women reading books in cafes and looking somewhat bored. In various web sites and discussion forums one may read their plaintive cries about feeling “invisible” (e.g. Japan/China) and having trouble finding guys who will give them the attention they feel they deserve.

It would appear that most western guys in Thailand, for example, have little time for western women. Instead they appear to prefer the company of more feminine, laidback (and yes, often more attractive) Thai ladies. And cynics note that I am referring to Thai ladies in general, and not simply bar-girls.

I even read a post the other day where a female expat stated that she was tired of western men in Thailand “disrespecting” western women in the way they pointedly ignore them. Tragic, just tragic.

In my blog post ‘I thought women were meant to be more empathetic‘ I talk about the issue of western women in Thailand flaunting local dress standards. Is this ‘look at me! look at me!’ behaviour in response to the ‘attention deficit mode’ that many western women appear to descend into within days of arrival in Asia? Or is it simply a reflection of a broader attitude of ‘my need to indulge myself trumps your right to have local social mores respected’?

Moving across to India, read about ‘The woman who says that it’s not only men who like to look‘ (24 August 2016)

Why don’t Western men in Asian countries lift their game and jump at the opportunity of approaching western women? Oh wait, they have already tried that back home and were rewarded with looks of disdain or contempt – or even accused of harassment. I can see this is going to be a tough sell.

So what then, you may ask, is the current situation in western countries such as USA, Canada, the UK, and Australia?

Well in the West men are confused, for they are routinely dragged over the coals for alternately either paying too much attention to women, or not enough. Or about the right amount but they are doing it wrong. Oh, and the goalposts regarding the ‘right’ way are continuously being moved.

On that first point, readers would be aware of the surfeit of publicity regarding the unwanted looks and attention that women attract from men, and how such behaviour threatens and disgusts them (example here).

And then every now and then there is an incident that serves as a lightning rod and focus for demands for action. Let’s look at the example of THAT infamous New York street harassment video …

In February 2017 another fake street harassment video emerged … ‘Video of raging female cyclist lashing out at van full of catcalling builders ‘revealed as FAKE’ as company pledges to launch internal probe’

In November 2017 another such fake street harassment video emerged … “Woman attacks man with her breasts for ‘staring at her’”

In early December 2018 an article appeared entitled ‘Is Australia sexist? Documentary asks if men and women are equal in the 21st century‘ – and of course there’s a video of Aussie guys looking at, and calling out to, Aussie women. Bettina Arndt had earlier written an article about the set-up that was the original ‘study’ in The Australian. Now take a look at this video critique of the SBS program.

I’d suggest now reading the two articles below, which set the scene quite well for the additional sources that follow:

The Sexodus, Part 1: The men giving up on women and checking out of society (4 December 2014) with related discussion thread here, and The Sexodus, Part 2: Dishonest Feminist panics leave male sexuality in crisis (9 December 2014) … and here is a link to a related Youtube video

And now feel free to peruse these further sources regarding the increasingly fraught issue of public interaction between the genders:

‘Shy and awkward’ student, 19, who googled ‘how to make a friend’ assaults schoolgirl, 17 (11 October 2019)

Men: Before you tell a joke/give advice/pay a compliment. A twitter stream from a woman with advice for men (4 September 2019)

Danish women prefer wolf-whistles to feminism (11 May 2019)

The Victorian Government (Australia) has issued a video highlighting the horror of women receiving unwanted attention on public transport, and – surprise surprise – calling on men to step in and deal with other men (9 April 2019). ‘Independent Man’ responds to this rather well with his own video.

Of course governments never step in and ask women to deal with other women who transgress one ‘rule’ or another, err like sexually abusing students for example. Because that would be hateful or misogynistic or something bad. Or something.

Unsafe in the City – A Tale of Five Cities, by Plan International (October 2018) This pro-feminist ‘study’ unsurprisingly completely ignores not just all the people who manage to remain safe in the city, but also both male victimisation and female violence.

Young woman was handed a note on the train (October 2018) Video

#MeToo Backlash In Corporate Canada Sees Women Locked Out (2 August 2018)

Judge approves lawsuit against Mizzou for punishing student who asked woman on a date (17 July 2018) USA

Men, take heed from the Victorians: don’t hound women in public (31 May 2018) Clearly no need to consider inappropriate behaviour by women, or the steps needed to address this.

Confusing sexual harassment with flirting hurts women (14 November 2017) by Cathy Young

Op-Ed: Is ‘Weinsteining’ getting out of hand? (1 November 2017) by Cathy Young

Man jailed for creepily staring at Glasgow pharmacy assistant through window (27 October 2017) UK

Be sure not to initiate a conversation with a woman you don’t know on the bus (13 July 2017)

In the U.K, women more than men perceive wolf-whistling as a compliment (7 July 2017)

Trump did to Merkel what men do to women all the time, by Jessica Valenti (March 2017)

Australian Bar Prohibits Men From Approaching Women, Must Speak ‘As They Would to Their Mother’ (23 February 2017)

Sexless in Silicon Valley: why nobody’s getting laid in America’s tech hub (19 January 2017) Not much sex or dating taking place and, of course, the blame is placed at the feet of socially inept men because …

Harassment of women by men at Summernats cannot be excused or ignored, by Clementine Ford (16 January 2017) Australia. This article includes the statement:

“Why are the events like the mass groping at Cologne used as an example of how immigrant men pose a threat to “our women”, yet white Australian men acting in a similar fashion at a car show is dismissed as “boys being boys”?”

And this with no evidence provided – aside from two vague anecdotal accounts – that any man laid a hand on a woman at Summernats 2017. No mention, for example, of any actual police reports. In fact, I have been advised that in the entire 30 year history of Summernats there have been only two reported sexual assaults. And yet this being, allegedly, in a “similar fashion” to the outrage that occurred on NYE in Cologne? Talk about a reach!

These two pictures were both taken at Summernats, guess which one featured in Clementine’s article?

Longing for the male gaze (21 September 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

I’m a feminist who’s attracted to ‘manly men’ (13  September 2016)

Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting (24 August 2016) UK

Reader’s Comment: Nottinghamshire men must stop looking at women (17 July 2016)

A life time of leers (5 June 2016) Reddit discussion thread with linked article

Where Did All The Chat Up Lines Go? Why We Miss Them… (27 November 2015)

“The days when men could be bothered to try and muster any sort of conversational gambit are gone” (6 December 2015) Reddit discussion thread and linked article

Model has ribs removed to transform into real-life Jessica Rabbit (27 November 2015)

Black Man Asks Woman For Phone Number In Oakland, She Posts Flyer About It And Calls Cops (19 October 2015)

Disgusted father tells woman on train to sit down (24 February 2012) Video Canada

Barrister names and shames senior lawyer who sent her a ‘sexist’ LinkedIn message (8 September 2015) Quite barking mad. And here is some ever-articulate commentary on the matter from ‘The Other McCain‘ (12 September 2015)

Chrissie Hynde was right about rape. Now feminists want to silence her (31 August 2015)

‘Ghosted’ by my boyfriend: After four years together he left and I never heard from him again (28 August 2015) Stick around after break-up (creepy stalker) or move on/start a clean page (thoughtless cad)

Feminists, and how to avoid them (12 August 2015)

Young women need to ‘tone down’…really? (1 August 2015) See readers comments

“In honesty, I didn’t make my sign”: SlutWalk revisited (Edmonton edition) (12 August 2015)

Guardian Author Who Called for End of Catcalling now Regrets she is not Catcalled (21 July 2015)

OK Cupid Data on Sex, Desirability, and Age (3 July 2015)

Finding a boyfriend cured my crippling loneliness, but left me feeling a bad feminist (23 June 2015) and related reddit mensrights discussion thread

The trials and tribulations of a token pretty girl (28 December 2014) and related reddit menrights discussion thread

Alex from Target: The other side of fame (12 November 2014) Objectified and harassed, but wait! How can this be? (Alex is a boy)

She explains why so many women don’t say ‘Hello.’ The reason is absolutely chilling (1 November 2014)

Rise of the Feminist Tinder-Creep-Busting Web Vigilante (27 October 2014) Read those comments and feel the frustration and anger. Next stop MGTOW

Boycott college women while in college (24 October 2014)

HuffPo and Salon slut-shame men (14 October 2014)

Vancouver men, please stop harassing women (12 October 2014)

On Not Approaching Women At All  (9 September 2014)

Fallout from campus sexual assault hysteria: College men now suspicious of women (22 August 2014)

Read transcript of an item on a US TV show entitled ‘Libs want men to stop looking at women

Feminism versus Miley Cyrus (20 April 2014)

Getting over feeling invisible after 50 (23 December 2013)

Breast enlargement remains the most popular procedure (UK) and in the United States  too (2013). In fact if you want a good chuckle then google on ‘feminism and breast augmentation’ and see the fur fly as feminists who have had their chests packed with silicon try to rationalise their decision (“I did it for myself, really”). Of course you did.

See the readers comment by ‘Okrahead’ about the spandex ‘lady’ in the gym in this article

Learn how approaching women in a nightclub is “harassment” perpetrated by “creeps”. Seriously guys, why bother? Interesting related discussion can be found here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602965/Men-try-kiss-10-minutes-meeting-Meet-tattooed-stunner-whos-popular-date-OKCupid-having-choice-men-ruining-love-life.html

In-depth: How We Waded Into The Sexual Harassment Quagmire — And How to Wade Out: One Man’s View (11 December 2011) Interesting big-picture viewpoint

The new math of campus (5 February 2010) Aw gee, not enough guys to go around on campus … and that was 2010 and there’s even less guys on campus now! ROTFL! Take a bow, feminism

And check this out too: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/topless-women-protestors-surprised-upset-as-men-show-up-with-cameras/story-e6frfku0-1225850121971

Read article entitled “Men here, they don’t even turn their head to look at you.” Awww. Gee, I wonder why this would happen … maybe because of attitudes like those expressed by the wimmin quoted below …

And here we read that British women don’t want to look at themselves in the mirror

Conclusion

Men and women are individuals whose position with regards to interacting with other individuals is influenced by many variables including age, relationship status, sexual orientation, cultural background, etc. There is no ‘one size fits all’.

Men are criticized both for approaching women, and for not approaching women. Some women live for male attention, others want none, with the remainder happy to engage at the times, and in the manner, of their choosing. Oh, and an individual woman’s position may change on a daily basis and/or depending upon the perceived attractiveness of the male who approaches her.

As women do not hold up signs advising of their own particular preferences, even well-meaning men – who comprise the overwhelming majority – are in a constant state of uncertainty, unease and frustration. Maybe if all women could organise themselves onto the same page, and circulate universal guidelines, things might be different. But we all know that’s not going to happen.

Feminists stoking the fire of misunderstanding and paranoia between the genders sure doesn’t help things, and only serves to propel ever more men towards a MGTOW lifestyle.

Elsewhere in this blog you might be interested in reading:

Girls showing their bits = empowerment? patriarchal exploitation? self-indulgence? other?
The ‘Marriage Strike’ and MGTOW
On privilege, respect, and entitlement
Fembots may prove to be a game changer
Harassment and discrimination in business and the workplace: Surprise, surprise, it goes both ways
When men have a daughter (another tale of male-blaming and silencing)