Seeking a news source without feminist bias

I came across this fellow’s plea whilst web surfing the other day, and thought it was quite a good question:

“Is there a news source that doesn’t have a pro-feminist bias?

I order “The Week” and most magazine issues have at least one article discussing a women’s issue; 50-70% of the issues discussed are either non-existent, highly exaggerated, or are only looking at the female side where the issue can affect anybody, and I have yet to see a single men’s issue being discussed in that magazine. I’ve been getting issues of that magazine for about two years now. I’m stopping my order as soon as I can, but I’m still going to have to deal with this crap with EVERY news source except …..?
And I don’t want a source that is specifically anti-feminist, and I don’t want a republican source like Fox News either.”

The question has only attracted two answers thus far, but ‘Elana’ responded as follows:

“I think you’re going to find it very difficult to find something without bias unless it avoids a subject entirely.

Really the only way you can do it is by reporting lots of different points of view and how it effects lots of different people.

My problem with feminism has always been that it NEVER reports what effects its policies has on men. I’ve never thought that women don’t need advocacy – they most certianly do – but to claim that feminism is all about equality and THE ONLY people who are all about equality, when in fact they are nothing more than a rather single minded advocacy movement for women – makes them dangerous.

At least MRAs point out what they are doing and why.

As MRAs gain traction, I’m 100% positive we’ll be muttering the same things about them, but right now, the vast majority of them, at least in the West, are fighting an uphill against court systems, political systems and media systems that are singularly feminist.”

Can anyway offer up any further suitable sources?

Source: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140112102343AAPqNbT

Domestic violence is not a gendered issue – Why the pervasive sexist bias against men?

Domestic violence (DV), also referred to as Intimate Partner Violence (IPV) or Family & Domestic Violence (FDV), is a shocking blight on the community. This is a scourge that inflicts substantial negative impacts on the lives of countless men, women and children. Whilst definitions have evolved and broadened, DV is loosely defined as “physical, sexual, or psychological harm by a current or former partner or spouse“.

It is important to acknowledge that DV encompasses man on man, women on women, man on woman, and woman on man violence (both cis- and transgender). Further, in many instances violence is perpetrated by both partners as shown in the accompanying diagram. There is also a strong nexus between the incidence of child abuse/neglect and subsequent perpetration of domestic violence by affected individuals upon reaching adulthood.

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The Wikipedia entry for ‘Epidemiology of domestic violence‘ provides readers with useful background information on this topic. For those willing to read something a little meatier, I would recommend this paper by esteemed DV researcher Malcolm George. Malcolm walks the reader through the historical context to the current debate about gender differences in violent behaviour and the way that society responds to the issue.

Many of those working within the DV sector, particularly here in Australia, only choose to acknowledge one element of the problem – that part involving male perpetrators and female victims. It is no coincidence that most staff within these government agencies, universities and NGO’s are strongly influenced by, and biased towards, feminist ideology. The feminist position is unequivocal, and it is that domestic violence = men’s violence towards women. Here is an example of that mindset, and here are many others.

This routine failure by feminists to recognise and discuss male victims, female perpetrators and bi-directional violence is no accident or coincidence. It is a deliberate strategy to build their brand, and in so doing demonise the overwhelming majority of men who have never, and would never, hurt or abuse their partner.

As a result, and in order to support the feminist narrative, a great deal of ‘cherry-picking’ and misrepresentation occurs in relation to the statistics provided in DV literature. In addition, the design and implementation of survey instruments is too often tainted with bias. This issue, that of feminist efforts to hide or discredit legitimate research and/or generate false or misleading statistics, is explored in this further blog post.

You will note, as you scroll down this page, that there are a multitude of sources of DV statistics, particularly the United Kingdom and the United States. Here in Australia, much less research has been undertaken – particularly in relation to male victimisation. One of the more significant sources is the Australian Bureau of Statistics Personal Safety Survey 2012, which found that one in three victims of domestic abuse were male. The results of overseas studies generally found levels of male and female victimisation that were closer to parity, and in some instances even higher rates of victimisation for men that women.

Unfortunately many journalists display remarkable tunnel-vision when addressing the topic of IPV. Indeed some have suggested that the media is complicit in the same sort of systemic gender bias against males noted earlier amongst those working in the field of DV.

Turning to my first example, an article called ‘Til death do us part’ which appeared in The Australian newspaper. It consisted of five pages of heart-wrenching coverage of men’s violence towards female partners, but made no mention of any other form of domestic violence, i.e. m-m, f-f, or women on men. Similarly this February 2014 article from The Mail newspaper also neglected to mention that men can be victims too.

Fiona McCormack also ignores male victims and female abusers this item on Australian ABC TV … except in an aside where she implies that anyone who raises the issue of women abusers is only seeking to “excuse” the behaviour of male abusers. This is very much akin to the feminist predilection of labelling anyone who questions various aspects of sexual assault (e.g. false rape allegations) as being “rape apologists” “victim blamers” etc.

Now let’s turn to this article by Charlie Pickering (more about Charlie here). Charlie is concerned that more attention is paid to the issue of random one-punch attacks on men, than on the violence visited nightly on women people in their homes. He goes on to state:

“For a long time, the term domestic violence has softened and normalised what is really going on. A more accurate term is ‘men’s violence against women’. Not ‘violence against women’, because that takes the responsibility for it away from those who need to be made responsible.”

This belief, that by acknowledging male victims and female perpetrators, we are somehow ignoring the validity and the pain of female victims is absurd, yet unfortunately commonplace in public discourse. The fact that there may be somewhat fewer male victims does not, nor should not, make domestic violence a gendered issue.

A precious few writers, like this one, suggest a more practical and unbiased approach to the issue:

“When it comes to the statistics about domestic abuse, it doesn’t matter to me how many men to how many women experience domestic violence. Domestic violence is a power issue more than a gender issue. Intimate Partner Violence affects men and women, and I really do not care in what proportion …

Within anti-domestic violence advocacy, there seems to be a trend to pit female victims against male victims and vice-versa. I do not know who is behind it, nor do I know if there is a “who” to blame. I do know that blame has no place in this fight against domestic abuse, especially when victim blames victim for any reason …

In a perfect society, men and women are equally protected under the law not because more laws were made to protect one sex but because in each mind and heart of all people, women and men are respected equally, and the individual contributions or crimes are our only measures of judgment. However, this ideal is as far away from our current reality as the idea that no person would seek power over another.”

Many others within the wider community have, however, embraced a biased and incomplete representation of DV, liberally salted with misinformation, at face value. Who could blame them, given that so many sources are bellowing out the same relentless message about male perpetrators and female victims, whilst studiously ignoring other elements of the issue.

Here in Australia, let’s look at this page within the web site of the Department of Social Services entitled ‘Women’s safety’, and the linked 28 page literature review prepared by ‘Urbis’ consultants at a cost of $220,000. One would have assumed, especially given the enormous cost, that the review would have encompassed all forms of abuse and perpetration. But, unfortunately, it did not.

In fact the review states that “Male perpetrators of domestic violence or sexual assault against men and female perpetrators of either offence against men have not been considered in this literature review. It is acknowledged that in practice the great majority of programs will be targeted towards men who commit domestic violence or sexual assault against women.”

Yes, that makes perfect sense … there are no programs for female offenders so let’s pretend they don’t exist. Such circular logic is (almost) unbelievable. And no, there is no corresponding ‘Mens Safety’ page within the DSS web site.

To be fair, the authors of some studies do admit that there are many female perpetrators and male victims, and that little research has been directed towards these groups. They also admit that there are probably many similarities between male and female perpetrators of IPV. They then invariably proceed, however, to offer a variety of justifications to continue their focus on the ‘domestic violence = Mens violence towards women’ model (example).

When misleading statistics are repeatedly exposed the feminist reaction is to move the goalposts by expanding the reach of the definition of domestic violence to encompass sexual violence, and less tangible forms of non-physical ‘violence’. This serves to both maximise the perceived magnitude of the problem, as well as support the anti-male narrative.

Naturally those areas where female perpetration is substantial, such as child abuse and elder abuse, are totally ‘out of bounds’. This theme is explored in this separate blog post. The same approach has been taken by feminists to prop up the notion of the existence of a ‘rape culture‘ in western societies.

Those of us concerned about men’s rights seek to have all aspects of domestic violence considered, as well as seeking remedies to specific issues such as:

  • the lack of resources to assist abused men and their children
  • laws and legal procedures that are based on the assumption that the male in the relationship is the abuser
  • negative and biased behaviour towards men who seek assistance, for example the screening of (only) male callers to abuse help-lines to determine if they are in fact perpetrators (example)

A selection of statistical sources that haven’t been doctored to support the feminist narrative

Coercive control and domestic violence, by Prof. Nicola Graham-Kevan (7 June 2020) You Tube video of conference presentation

Domestic abuse by women triples in a decade with female attackers carrying out almost a third of assaults (26 January 2020)

New AIC paper appears to cherry-pick data to fit “gendered violence” narrative (30 October 2019)

Male Victims of Domestic Violence Suffer Severe Effects, Canadian Study Reports (15 April 2019)

Assessing the risk of repeat intimate partner assault, by NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics & Research (December 2018)

Are a third of domestic abuse victims men? (6 December 2018) UK

Dunedin study gender violence truths (13 June 2016) Video

References examining assaults by women on their spouses or male partners: An Annotated Bibliography by Martin S. Fiebert. This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. Here is a link to an updated June 2013 version of Fiebert’s bibliography.

Partner Abuse, Volume 1, No. 1, 2010 The first edition of a new journal created to showcase academic research into domestic violence without gender bias

Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project – Facts and Statistics on Domestic Violence at-a-Glance. Sponsored by the Journal Partner Abuse, November, 2012. This study is also discussed in this article
Male Victims of Intimate Partner Violence in the United States: An Examination of the Review of Literature through the Critical Theoretical Perspective, by Caroletta A. Shuler (2010) and related reddit discussion thread

Extensive listing of mainly North American research findings related to domestic violence (29 April 2015)

Family violence in Canada: A statistical profile (27 January 2011) Almost equal numbers of male and female victims of DV

Symptoms of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder in Men who Sustain Intimate Partner Violence: A Study of Help-seeking and Community Samples (2012)

Partner Violence as Female-specific in Aetiology

Intimate partner violence: Facts and statistics (1 September 2014) Included some discussion of ‘Patriarchal Dominance’ theory

Domestic violence rates are higher for homosexual couples than for heterosexual couples (18 November 2013)

Preliminary Examination of a Mutual Intimate Partner Violence Intervention Among Treatment-Mandated Couples (2013)

Male victims of domestic violence: A Substantive and Methodological Research Review by Michael S. Kimmel (2001)

Women who perpetrate intimate partner violence: A review of the literature with recommendations for treatment (January 2007)

Disabusing the definition of domestic violence: How women batter men and the role of the Feminist State by Linda Kelly 2003

Unprecedented domestic violence study affirms need to recognise male victims (21 May 2013)

One-third of domestic violence victims in active-duty families are men (27 August 2014)

Partner Violence Against Men in England & Wales and the Gender Bias of Public Bodies (2014)

Aggression in British Heterosexual Relationships: A Descriptive Analysis

The Truth About Domestic Violence – You’ll Never Believe… (a must-see video on Youtube)

Research into domestic violence-related deaths (USA/2010) More for men than women

Newer perspectives on domestic violence (April 2010)

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2014/06/11/can-we-finally-nail-down-those-male-victim-statistics/ (United Kingdom)

See recent Swedish DV research here

Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence (2006)

“Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In non-reciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.”

A summary of credible research about domestic violence

This video features an incredibly fast rundown of published domestic violence research that runs contrary to the feminist position (15 June 2016)

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/28smbv/gender_symmetry_in_domestic_violence_and_why_it/

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=gender+symmetry&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C5&as_sdtp=

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/c3lvm/faq_studies_showing_high_frequency_of_women/

A 2009 source but which still contains some useful information and references

Some Australian statistics/background info

1IN3’s Questions on Notice for Joint Select Committee on Australia’s Family Law System (19 October 2020) Re: Issuing of domestic violence orders against abusive women

The disaster that is Australia’s Domestic Violence Policy, by Helen Dale (12 February 2020)

Yet another study finds equal levels of abuse by men and women (2 February 2020)

New AIC paper appears to cherry-pick data to fit “gendered-violence” narrative (30 October 2019)

Family, domestic and sexual violence in Australia, 2018 (28 February 2018)

ABS Personal Safety survey results 2016

Senior public servants demonstrating their unswerving support for the feminist narrative regarding FDV (12 April 2017) Video

Western Australia: half of reported domestic violence harm caused by 2% of offenders (15 December 2016)

ABS violent crime statistics released July 2016

Behavioural change program for men at risk of committing domestic violence launched in ACT (14 June 2016) Violent/abusive women are completely left out of this program – an outrageous demonstration of gender bias (lodge a complaint here). More on crazy developments in the ACT at ‘Domestic violence levy: Canberra sets an absurd precedent‘ (18 June 2016)

Is a national approach needed to address domestic violence in Australia? (1 April 2016) Provides brief overview of what’s happening in each state

ABC Fact File: Domestic Violence in Australia (6 April 2016)

More than 125,000 women homeless because of domestic violence (15 February 2016). The only figures for male victimisation that were mentioned – because they appeared to support the feminist perspective – were drawn from this media release from a government agency. What’s not mentioned though is that the relatively low numbers of men seeking assistance are indicative of factors other than simply lower rates of male victimisation, incl.:

  • the rampant genderbias of ‘help-lines’, advocacy groups and even government agencies
  • the (widely-known) lack of resources available to help male victims (with or without children, and
  •  the much greater incidence of non-reporting of DV by men (compared to women)

FactCheck Q&A: is domestic violence in Australia on the decline? (3 February 2016) Also includes 75+ readers comments

Australian DV statistics fact-sheet produced by the organisation ‘One in Three’

Domestic Violence in Australia: Are women and men equally violent?

Domestic Violence, by Chris Lloyd (21 January 2015) Very thorough, especially in relation to Victorian DV statistics

Anglicare WA survey summary with further details available from Anglicare WA’s web site (2014)

2014 article that discusses teen dating abuse and found roughly equal number of male and female abusers.

Boys Victims of Dating Violence, Too (29 January 2016) USA

This paper by the Australian Domestic and Family Violence Clearinghouse is also worth reading, although I disagree with aspects of it. It is entitled ‘The Gender Debate in Domestic Violence: The Role of Data‘ (May 2013)

An April 2014 discussion about domestic violence and its relationship to urban planning practice.

http://mensrightsmelbourne.com/2014/03/26/domestic-violence-by-women-over-the-past-eight-years-rocketed-by-159/

Intimate Partner Abuse of Men, by Tilbrook, E.,  Allan, A., and Dear, G. (2010)

Articles on IPV sourced from the ‘A Voice for Men’ web site (various authors)

The irrefutable proof is in: DV is not gendered (except when it is, which is most of the time) by David King (2 August 2016) Australia. Recommended reading

Steven Pinker: sex, violence, and failure of enlightenment (11 September 2015)

This article and related reddit discussion concern a move in Victoria, Australia, to alter the law in relation of using self-defence where death of a partner occurs (article) (discussion)

NCFM Vice President responds to criticism about MRA’s and the AVfM conference in Detroit (25 July 2014)

Recruiting domestic violence spies by Jim Muldoon (18 July 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/the-cycle-of-the-female-abuser/ (15 July 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-state-of-play-for-men-domestic-violence/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/the-feminists-great-equality-lie/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/australian-domestic-violence-hysteria/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-health/callout-to-australian-british-and-canadian-men-for-help/

On male victims of domestic violence by M. R. Walks (17 February 2012)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/allnews/flawed-domestic-violence-survey-challenged-by-mens-health-advocates/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/domestic-violence-industry/when-a-girl-hits-you/

http://whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.com.au/2010/10/dv-debate-paul-elam-against-feminist.html

General sources regarding Intimate Partner Violence

Evidence shows children who are smacked are more likely to be involved in partner violence in adulthood (3 May 2021)

Australian media is failing to cover domestic violence in the right way: new research (2 March 2021) The feminist bias and related hypocrisy in this paper is simply unbelievable #facepalm

Domestic abuse: The latest lie (19 July 2019) UK. This article addresses, amongst other things, the feminist myth that most men who suffer domestic violence are the victims of other men.

Debunking the gendered violence construct (28 April 2020) A good video by @EyeisBloke (UK)

Joe Hildebrand: ‘Deadliest of lies’ we keep swallowing (27 October 2019) Australia

The demonization of Australian men, by Augusto Zimmermann (14 February 2019)

Growing number of men reporting domestic violence to police, ONS figures reveal (22 November 2018)

The proportion of male victims who told police about their domestic abuse increased from 10.4% in 2014-15 to 14.7% this year as charities said more men were shaking off the stigma of talking about their suffering.

How Victoria’s family violence system fails some victims – by assuming they’re perpetrators (14 November 2017) I thought this paper was going to talk about men being misidentified as DV aggressors, but oh no, apparently it happens to women all the time <facepalm> and men exploit this to obtain intervention orders to protect themselves (& their children) from women who aren’t really hitting/abusing them.

Studies Show Lesbians Much More Likely to Beat, Sexually Abuse Their Wives Than Heterosexual Men (15 August 2017) This article contains several dead hyperlinks – the relevant references are as follows:

The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS): 2010 Findings on Victimization by Sexual Orientation (January 2013)
Victimization Over the Life Span: A Comparison of Lesbian, Gay,
Bisexual, and Heterosexual Siblings (2005)
When your rapist is a woman (30 March 2016)
Lena Dunham Didn’t Molest Her Sister, but Female-on-Female Sexual Abuse Is Real and Awful (4 November 2014)
Lesbian intimate partner violence: Prevalence and dynamics (2002)
Victimization and Perpetration Rates of Violence in Gay and Lesbian Relationships: Gender Issues Explored (1997)

Dear Feminists: Stop Denying The Connection Between Alcohol And Domestic Violence‘ by Corrine Barraclough (2 May 2017) Australia

Questions about violence against women are for all, not just migrants, by Wendy Tuohy (24 April 2017) Not even a hint that men are also victims of DV = substandard journalism for which there is no longer any excuse.

Why gender can’t be ignored when dealing with domestic violence (28 March 2017)

Domestic Violence: A Male Problem? (23 March 2017) UK

10 lies abusers tell themselves (and others). Calling out the common deceptions. (11 February 2017) Interesting article re: how abusers rationalise their actions

Flowers = Domestic Violence. Feminist hypocrisy at its peak (8 February 2017) Australia

The Duluth model is working as designed; you won’t smart mouth her again (3 February 2017)

On the psychology of domestic violence, by Ally Fogg (13 January 2017) UK

Shocking domestic abuse statistics don’t show the real picture: it’s even worse (14 December 2016) UK. This is one of several articles written by feminists in response to the recent release of stats showing the large (and increasing) number of male victims. Essentially they say ‘it doesn’t matter how many men are victims, women have it worse and we should focus entirely on them’.

Tory MP Faces Abuse From Feminist Colleagues After Opposing Sexist Bill (17 December 2016) UK

Stopping Fathers Committing Family Violence (13 December 2016) The Victorian Government (Australia) ignores female perpetrators of domestic violence – it’s something only dads do! Disgusting bias

More than one in three victims of domestic abuse are now men (10 December 2016) UK

San Antonio Judge Rules Men Not Capable of Being Victims of Domestic Violence (2016) USA

Sydney police officer breaches AVO (2 December 2016) A female officer, if that’s relevant

Should we scrutinise ALL reports of family violence? by Jasmin Newman (22 November 2016)

Domestic violence convention would make men ‘second class citizens’ (19 November 2016) Ireland

The fight against domestic violence needs to look beyond blaming men, by Stephanie Ross (6 November 2016) Australia

Governments accused of failing to fully recognise role of alcohol in family violence  (27 October 2016) Australia

Domestic violence: Perpetrators would receive warning texts and videos (21 October 2016) Australia

Black women’s lives matter too, by Nyunggai Warren Mundine AO (15 October 2016) Australia

Evidence for impact of Domestic Violence Perpetrator Programmes: College of Policing evidence commentary (undated) UK

“This ‘review of reviews’ concluded that no clear impact of DVPPs has been identified, and that effects on further victimisation have been small.”

To stop domestic violence, we need to change perpetrators’ behaviour (5 October 2016) This article in pro-feminist The Conversation completely ignores the reality of female abusers and the lack of counselling services for them.

It’s time to admit the truth about domestic violence, by David Leyonhjelm (27 September 2016) Australia

Force game-changer: Deputy Commissioner Wendy Steendam on a mission to end violence against women (23 September 2016) Australia

BBC & Notts Police Chief publicise non-existent “hate crimes” against women whilst ignoring fatal domestic violence against men (22 September 2016) UK

Why does the CPS report on violence against women include men in the stats? by Ally Fogg (7 September 2016)

Denying female domestic violence, by Augusto Zimmermann (28 August 2016)

Douglas Todd: B.C.’s domestic-violence programs based on ‘false’ theory (21 August 2016)

Always beating up on men, by Bettina Arndt (20 August 2016) Recommended reading

Gulags for New Zealand men (18 August 2016)

This is one of countless examples of how feminist DV advocacy groups seek to minimise both women’s role in perpetrating abusive behaviours, and its degree of impact on male victims.

Study findings on domestic violent present ‘challenging picture’  (16 June 2016) New Zealand

“The findings of an in-depth domestic violence study, which showed violent conduct almost evenly split between the genders, are potentially cause for concern, a senior police officer says.”

The gender of domestic violence (8 June 2016) NZ video concerning the difficulty experienced by researchers whose findings showed that women were equally likely to abuse.

Violent Parents – Calling for the End to Child Contact at Any Cost, by Jess Phillips MP (20 April 2016) UK. Article by well-known staunch feminist who implies all abusive parents are men, which as some readers point out is grossly misleading.

ABC’s Q&A program proves that ignorance is still rife about domestic violence, by Anne Summers (15 April 2016) Feminists get so angry when people dare to suggest that misogyny/gender inequality is not THE penultimate cause of domestic violence. I read this piece and think ‘pot-kettle-black’

My province’s government instructs police officers to treat domestic violence with a “gendered lens” and assume that men are perpetrators. How can this be changed? (19 April 2016) Reddit discussion thread with linked reference material. Note that male victims of DV are much more likely to report being “very dissatisfied” by their treatment at the hands of police. Is it any wonder?

Minister for Prevention of Family Violence needs to think about her own family history, by Bettina Arndt (1 April 2016) Australia

A female voice for ‘demonised’ men (16 March 2016) Australia

Changing attitudes towards domestic abuse against men (16 March 2016) UK

Why female violence against men is society’s last great taboo, by Martin Daubney (15 March 2016) UK

The Melbourne suburbs where a parent is most likely to murder their child (12 March 2016) Australia

The scandal of women’s violence towards men, by Melanie Phillips (11 March 2016) To read the full article seems to require a subscription to The Times.

Women Who Emotionally Abuse Men (29 February 2016)

Spain gender laws: A country against men (18 February 2016)

Australians are being told that gender inequality is the root cause of domestic violence. But is it?, by Gay Alcorn (19 February 2016)

Dad domestic violence victim fears courts being used as a weapon (22 January 2016) Australia

The solutions: ‘We can make it better’ | Behind Closed Doors (31 December 2015) NZ

For Nelson Women’s Refuge manager Katie O’Donnell, the solution to New Zealand’s domestic violence problem is more straightforward. “People say it’s a really complex issue. Well, it is a complex issue but also it isn’t – guys just have to stop doing it”

Vera Baird, a British regional ‘Police Commissioner’, disseminates a Christmas message implying that men who budget their finances carefully do so in order to “economically abuse” their partners (25 December 2015)

economic_abuse

Dear Daddy: Viral video highlights how sexist jokes contribute to culture of violence against women (16 December 2015) Australia. Same old stuff, demonising men and putting full responsibility on them to ‘fix’ domestic violence whilst ignoring female perpetration of violence.

Blindfolded with a White Ribbon, by Geoffrey Luck (27 November 2015) Australia

Silent Victims, by Bettina Arndt (14 November 2015) Australia

A simple solution to domestic violence, a video by Janet Bloomfield (15 October 2015)

The surprisingly common reason John hits his partner (14 October 2015) Of course a male batterer is profiled, but watch the fur fly when someone suggests a contributing factor that doesn’t fit the feminist Duluth Model.

The cause of both domestic violence and terrorism is angry men (6 October 2015)

Turnbull’s response to domestic violence ignores the evidence (6 October 2015)

Miranda Devine: Demonising men won’t stop domestic violence (27 September 2015) Australia – with an example of the predictable feminist reaction here. Miranda responded to her feminist critics firstly with this article, and then this one.

Domestic violence package: A great start, but it will only get us so far (25 September 2015) Australia

Domestic violence called “Violence against Women” (21 September 2015) A Reddit Australia discussion thread that followed an ill-informed comment by newly-installed Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull

Men’s anti-Domestic Violence advocate says scourge “is a male problem” (13 September 2015) Plenty of readers comments that are highly critical of the White Ribbon Campaign Ambassador quoted in the article

The Hidden Politics of Family Violence (8 August 2015) Australia

Why men feel aggrieved in family court interventions (11 August 2015) Australia

To change attitudes to family violence, we need a shift in gender views (22 July 2015) Disgracefully biased article from The Conversation wherein the feminist author laments Australians growing realisation that DV is not a gendered issue, dismissing this as a “misunderstanding”.

Domestic Abuse: ‘It is not a women’s issue and it is not a men’s issue. It’s a human problem’ (14 July 2015) Ireland

Lawrence Ben Eliezer on Institutionalized Feminism within the Criminal Justice System (14 July 2015) Canadian video

Retiring magistrate Ron Kilner says domestic violence laws have been exploited (11 July 2015) Australia. Interesting how politicians, judges, etc, only begin speaking freely and honestly about gender-related issues upon their retirement. (see my post on this theme here)

Family violence: the focus should be on support, not mandatory reporting (3 July 2015) This links to an article in the ABC web site, but the same article was also published in The Conversation. Feminist authors remains true to type by ignoring male victims and abusive women. Australia

Rosie Batty – The Opposite Case (28 June 2015) Australia

Patriarchy vs Facts: Domestic Violence (PART I) (23 June 2015) Video

Men experiencing or perpetrating domestic violence have higher incidence of mental health problems (20 May 2015)

Domestic violence a ‘silent epidemic’ in gay relationships (30 May 2015) Australia

Mark Latham on why Labor can’t get it right on domestic violence (16 May 2015) and the obligatory feminist bite-back (this one being one of the milder responses)

$16m for dom violence but $1.2b for terrorism (14 May 2015) Australia

UK article about the high level of violence amongst lesbian couples (7 May 2015)

Miranda Devine: The brutal truth about domestic violence (5 April 2015)

Dating violence protections empowering for young men, women (2 April 2015) USA

Violence against women should mean the end of any high profile career (30 March 2015) See great reader’s comment contributed by Mark Dent

Reddit TIL discussion thread about recent CDC research claiming more men are victims of partner abuse (23 March 2015) USA and related mensrights discussion thread

Tara Moss: ‘We can’t let trolls hijack the domestic violence conversation’ (5 March 2015) Australia. This is the feminist concept of a “conversation” – we talk & you shut-up. If you try to join our conversation then you are a troll. And, as is becoming increasingly common of late, no reader’s comments were permitted on this article.

Men forgotten in violence debate‘ by Tanveer Ahmed (9 February 2015), with follow-up article, Feminism in crisis as male supporter expresses view of his own (9 February 2015)

Domestic Violence: How taboos veil the truth‘ by Don Edgar (27 January 2015) Australia

Can domestic abusers be rehabilitated? (1 February 2015) Gynocentric/pro-feminist bias but worth reading in conjunction with the comments contributed by readers

When it comes to Domestic Violence, she says she wants equality – however when faced with a discussion of male victims – she labels it a failure and bitches about statistics #oneistoomany (25 January 2015)

Cutting off unfaithful penises, apparently justified and hilarious (15 January 2015)

Telstra introduces domestic violence leave (13 January 2015) Australia. Article implies only women are victims of domestic violence and leaves us guessing as to whether the company policy is sexist/discriminatory – or just the journalism

Domestic Violence – Donald Dutton Debunks The Gender Paradigm (25 November 2014) Youtube video

Domestic Violence Against Men: Why We Need To Pay More Attention To Vulnerable Males (6 November 2014)

5 Facts about domestic violence to consider this November (and every other month too) by Janet Bloomfield (28 October 2014)

This feminist writer has the gall to attack men’s rights groups on the basis that they are uncaring about the plight of male victims of domestic violence (21 October 2014) Be sure to peruse the readers comments

Our submission to the Home Office consultation on the strengthening of the law on domestic abuse (15 October 2014) Mike Buchanan rails against the rampant anti-male bias evident within both the UK government agencies responsible for dealing with domestic abuse, and within the advocacy groups upon which the agencies confer and rely.

Stefan Molyneux video entitled ‘Domestic violence symposium’ (16 June 2014)

Why don’t we speak up when we see signs of domestic violence? (1 October 2014) This article in a pro-feminist web site provides a stereotypical feminist perspective on the subject. What was notable was that almost all the readers comments attacked the author’s obvious anti-male bias. This article forms the focus of this blog post.

Do we give female domestic violence abusers a pass? (1 October 2014)

In this article a feminist writer, Amanda Hess, attempts to rationalise why domestic violence by a female sports star should be addressed differently than in the case of a male sports star (22 September 2014) Most of the 600+ readers  comments that followed disagreed and told her so in no uncertain terms.

Woman as aggressor: The unspoken truth of domestic violence (19 September 2014)

Trivialising and excusing violence against women (17 September 2014) Author pushes a feminist perspective but there are almost 300 reader’s comments

Women more likely to commit domestic violence, studies show (16 September 2014)

Welsh gender politics putting male and female victims at risk says men’s charity (10 September 2014)

New study of domestic violence: “Women significantly more likely to be physically aggressive” (7 July 2014)

In the US a decline in domestic violence (26 August 2014)

Children most often killed by their mothers (25 September 2012) NZ. This article covers a range of issues other than just filicide.

Is that a frying pan, or are you just unhappy to see me? (2 March 2008)

Men Are More Likely Than Women To Be Victims In Dating Violence, UNH Expert Says (19 May 2006)

http://www.thecitizen.org.au/features/what-about-men-lies-statistics-and-peddling-myths-about-violence-against-women A pro-feminist article that tries to appear even-handed, but it’s worth reading by virtue of the level of detail provided with additional info provided in readers comments.

‘Lollies at a childrens party and other myths: Violence, protection orders and fathers rights groups’ by Miranda Kaye and Julia Tomie (1998). Another detailed but flawed paper in support of the feminist position on DV. Its main line of attack is that available statistics don’t support claims made by men’s rights advocates. It conveniently ignores the fact that most Australian DV research is undertaken by feminists and biased towards finding ‘evidence’ to support a pre-determined conclusion. Thus the accuracy and impartiality of the research is the real issue, rather than the credibility of the whistle-blowers.

The paper also misinterprets and/or takes out of context, many of the comments it attributes to fathers groups in an attempt to portray them as irrational or unreasonable. Finally the authors attack specific statements put forward by fathers groups despite the same arguments having been used (at other times) by feminists in support of their own (feminist) perspective. The authors of this paper, for example, want to jump from one camp to the other (and back again) in relation to the issue of whether behaviour other than physical violence should be included in the definition of domestic violence.

The Modern Day Ducking Stool: Domestic Abuse Programs and Man Shaming (16 August 2014)

More male abuse survivors in rural Ireland are seeking help (27 July 2014)

The Domestic Violence Method (January 2015) Australia

50 domestic violence myths (27 December 2013) USA

Are men really victims of intimate partner violence? (2011) Australia

Women are more violent says study (12 November 2000)

Researcher says women’s initiation of domestic violence predicts risks to women (6 July 2009)

More than 40% domestic violence victims are male, report reveals (5 September 2010) with related discussion thread here (worth reading)

The Gender Paradigm in domestic violence research and theory (2005) Includes coverage of the claim that women engage in violence mainly due to self-defence.

Intimate partner abuse of men (Edith Cowan University, 2010)

Domestic violence: Women abusers on the rise (23 June 2009) Australia

Violent women by Lynette Haas (appeared in the Sunday Mail, 28 March 1999)

Husband abuse: Fact or Fiction by Dr Sotirios Sarantakos (Australia)

Deconstructing Self-Defence in Wife-to-Husband Violence by Dr Sotirios Sarantakos (Australia)

Domestic Violence and the Male Victim by  Anne Lewis & Dr Sotirios Sarantakos (Australia)

Wikipedia entry on domestic violence against men

Domestic abuse community punishments ban planned by Labour (27 July 2014) And unsurprisingly, no mention of male victims.

Sorry for being a man (NZ politician) Youtube video

We need to show it’s just not manly to hit out (9 July 2014) Nonsense article dripping with white knight bias … “The idea that the woman may be equally to blame, even if she is also violent and even the initiator of the violence, is simply not acceptable”

Society’s acceptance of domestic violence? (12 March 2013)

Youtube video interview on DV with Erin Pizzey, Senator Anne Cools & Dr. Martin Fiebert

http://time.com/2921491/hope-solo-women-violence/ (25 June 2014) with related discussion at http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2942ji/double_standards_that_cause_womens_violence/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Christina Hoff Sommers on violence against women (Youtube video)

Women ‘more likely to hit their partners’ (25 June 2014), ‘Rise of female relationship terrorists: Study finds women are more controlling’ (26 June 2014), ‘Relationship terrorists study‘ (25 June 2014), Women are more controlling and aggressive than men (26 June 2014), ‘Women more likely to be aggressive in relationships‘, and ‘Confessions of an intimate terrorist‘ Reddit discussion thread and linked article (27 June 2014)

Mothers ‘faking domestic violence’ to keep their children, inquiry told (24 June 2014) Yes, Therese (Edwards), domestic violence IS under-reported, especially those incidents involving female perpetrators – but I doubt that your National Council has expressed any concerns about that issue. By way of background, this article concerns submissions to an Australian government Inquiry into Child Support.

More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals (22 June 2014)

When a woman hits a man it’s justified (21 June 2014)

The fallacious stereotype of ‘male violence’ and why it’s being sold to you (11 June 2014) Good Australian article by Adam Blanch. This attracted a spiteful, biased and misleading rebuttal from a feminist by the name of Caitlin Roper. Caitlin herself had earlier published her own item about domestic violence, a response to which was subsequently penned by Australian MRA Greg Canning.

Senator Anne Cools at Toronto conference on domestic violence (2014, video)

Daisy Kler lying to the public by Diana Davison and John Hembling (26 May 2014)

Shifting the gender bias (19 April 2014) An example of one of the all-too-few media articles that recognise and are sympathetic to male victims of DV

VAWA: The American Feminists’ Abuse Industry by Hunter Brooks

The silence of domestic violence

A reddit discussion thread about the anti-male bias evident in the web site of an American domestic violence centre’s web site. Unfortunately such bias (i.e. stating or implying that all men accessing the site are abusers and that all women are victims) is also common in domestic violence centres in Australia.

Male victims of DV who call the police are more likely to be arrested than the female perpetrator (A discussion thread on reddit/mensrights) and then see this article

Solange and Jay-Z: It’s simply not the same if a man is hit by a woman (18 May 2014)

She punched him but he is bigger, so he is deemed the “primary aggressor” (6 May 2014)

http://judgybitch.com/tag/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10752232/Our-attitude-to-violence-against-men-is-out-of-date.html

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/brand-what-do-you-do-when-a-girl-hits-you/

Invisible victims: When men are abused

Signs of an abuser apply to women as well as men

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gekyg7yy4Dc&feature=plcp (a ‘Girl Writes What’ video)

http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=38186#.U0zOOlWSySo (This article has an anti-male bias but there are some good references cited within the readers comments)

http://www.itv.com/news/wales/story/2014-04-07/instances-of-male-domestic-abuse-increases-in-wales/#men-reporting-domestic-abuse-rises-across-wales_346689

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10815810/Nagging-could-cost-the-lives-of-hundreds-of-men.html

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/malevictims/

http://whatmenthinkofwomen.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/dr-greg-canning-on-domestic-violence.html

http://www.drceli.com.au/blogs/elizabeth-celi-blog/2011/11/19/male-victims-of-domestic-abuse—an-under-served-group-of-men

http://twnow.com/tech-founder-in-shocking-domestic-abuse-case/ (29 April 2014)

http://www.batteredmen.com/

http://j4mb.wordpress.com/2014/01/11/vera-bairds-response-to-our-recent-public-challenge-concerning-domestic-violence/

http://www.australianmensrights.com/Domestic_Violence_Statistics-Child_Abuse_Australia/National_Times_Really-Women_Bash_Men-Violent_Women_Australia-Study_Kim_Halford_08MAR2011.aspx

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Don’t talk to me! No wait. Talk to me!

Those of you who have spent time in Asian countries might have noticed a lot of western women reading books in cafes and looking somewhat bored. In various web sites and discussion forums one may read their plaintive cries about feeling “invisible” (e.g. Japan/China) and having trouble finding guys who will give them the attention they feel they deserve.

It would appear that most western guys in Thailand, for example, have little time for western women. Instead they appear to prefer the company of more feminine, laidback (and yes, often more attractive) Thai ladies. And cynics note that I am referring to Thai ladies in general, and not simply bar-girls.

I even read a post the other day where a female expat stated that she was tired of western men in Thailand “disrespecting” western women in the way they pointedly ignore them. Tragic, just tragic.

In my blog post ‘I thought women were meant to be more empathetic‘ I talk about the issue of western women in Thailand flaunting local dress standards. Is this ‘look at me! look at me!’ behaviour in response to the ‘attention deficit mode’ that many western women appear to descend into within days of arrival in Asia? Or is it simply a reflection of a broader attitude of ‘my need to indulge myself trumps your right to have local social mores respected’?

Moving across to India, read about ‘The woman who says that it’s not only men who like to look‘ (24 August 2016)

Why don’t Western men in Asian countries lift their game and jump at the opportunity of approaching western women? Oh wait, they have already tried that back home and were rewarded with looks of disdain or contempt – or even accused of harassment. I can see this is going to be a tough sell.

So what then, you may ask, is the current situation in western countries such as USA, Canada, the UK, and Australia?

Well in the West men are confused, for they are routinely dragged over the coals for alternately either paying too much attention to women, or not enough. Or about the right amount but they are doing it wrong. Oh, and the goalposts regarding the ‘right’ way are continuously being moved.

On that first point, readers would be aware of the surfeit of publicity regarding the unwanted looks and attention that women attract from men, and how such behaviour threatens and disgusts them (example here).

And then every now and then there is an incident that serves as a lightning rod and focus for demands for action. Let’s look at the example of THAT infamous New York street harassment video …

In February 2017 another fake street harassment video emerged … ‘Video of raging female cyclist lashing out at van full of catcalling builders ‘revealed as FAKE’ as company pledges to launch internal probe’

In November 2017 another such fake street harassment video emerged … “Woman attacks man with her breasts for ‘staring at her’”

In early December 2018 an article appeared entitled ‘Is Australia sexist? Documentary asks if men and women are equal in the 21st century‘ – and of course there’s a video of Aussie guys looking at, and calling out to, Aussie women. Bettina Arndt had earlier written an article about the set-up that was the original ‘study’ in The Australian. Now take a look at this video critique of the SBS program.

I’d suggest now reading the two articles below, which set the scene quite well for the additional sources that follow:

The Sexodus, Part 1: The men giving up on women and checking out of society (4 December 2014) with related discussion thread here, and The Sexodus, Part 2: Dishonest Feminist panics leave male sexuality in crisis (9 December 2014) … and here is a link to a related Youtube video

And now feel free to peruse these further sources regarding the increasingly fraught issue of public interaction between the genders:

The four words all women have used to get rid of unwanted advances (24 March 2021)

6 Reasons men need to stop making the first move in dating (7 March 2021)

The pandemic of male loneliness (24 February 2021)

Men going their own way: the rise of a toxic male separatist movement (26 August 2020) You’d think they’d be happy if men went away, but nah. Funny thing that.

Are masks giving men a license to leer? Women report a rise in ‘aggressive eye contact’ (28 July 2020)

Police issue warrant for Louisiana woman, 29, who ‘shot her boyfriend because he refused to argue with her’, leaving him in critical condition (20 July 2020)

Women are fun (July 2020) Video

‘Shy and awkward’ student, 19, who googled ‘how to make a friend’ assaults schoolgirl, 17 (11 October 2019)

Men: Before you tell a joke/give advice/pay a compliment. A twitter stream from a woman with advice for men (4 September 2019)

Danish women prefer wolf-whistles to feminism (11 May 2019)

The Victorian Government (Australia) has issued a video highlighting the horror of women receiving unwanted attention on public transport, and – surprise surprise – calling on men to step in and deal with other men (9 April 2019). ‘Independent Man’ responds to this rather well with his own video.

Of course governments never step in and ask women to deal with other women who transgress one ‘rule’ or another, err like sexually abusing students for example. Because that would be hateful or misogynistic or something bad. Or something.

Unsafe in the City – A Tale of Five Cities, by Plan International (October 2018) This pro-feminist ‘study’ unsurprisingly completely ignores not just all the people who manage to remain safe in the city, but also both male victimisation and female violence.

Young woman was handed a note on the train (October 2018) Video

Flight etiquette: I broke the one rule of long-haul flying (5 September 2018) But of course the guy in the plane seat next to you wants to get to know you

#MeToo Backlash In Corporate Canada Sees Women Locked Out (2 August 2018)

Judge approves lawsuit against Mizzou for punishing student who asked woman on a date (17 July 2018) USA

Men, take heed from the Victorians: don’t hound women in public (31 May 2018) Clearly no need to consider inappropriate behaviour by women, or the steps needed to address this.

Confusing sexual harassment with flirting hurts women (14 November 2017) by Cathy Young

Op-Ed: Is ‘Weinsteining’ getting out of hand? (1 November 2017) by Cathy Young

Man jailed for creepily staring at Glasgow pharmacy assistant through window (27 October 2017) UK

Be sure not to initiate a conversation with a woman you don’t know on the bus (13 July 2017)

In the U.K, women more than men perceive wolf-whistling as a compliment (7 July 2017)

Trump did to Merkel what men do to women all the time, by Jessica Valenti (March 2017)

Australian Bar Prohibits Men From Approaching Women, Must Speak ‘As They Would to Their Mother’ (23 February 2017)

Sexless in Silicon Valley: why nobody’s getting laid in America’s tech hub (19 January 2017) Not much sex or dating taking place and, of course, the blame is placed at the feet of socially inept men because …

Harassment of women by men at Summernats cannot be excused or ignored, by Clementine Ford (16 January 2017) Australia. This article includes the statement:

“Why are the events like the mass groping at Cologne used as an example of how immigrant men pose a threat to “our women”, yet white Australian men acting in a similar fashion at a car show is dismissed as “boys being boys”?”

And this with no evidence provided – aside from two vague anecdotal accounts – that any man laid a hand on a woman at Summernats 2017. No mention, for example, of any actual police reports. In fact, I have been advised that in the entire 30 year history of Summernats there have been only two reported sexual assaults. And yet this being, allegedly, in a “similar fashion” to the outrage that occurred on NYE in Cologne? Talk about a reach!

These two pictures were both taken at Summernats, guess which one featured in Clementine’s article?

Longing for the male gaze (21 September 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

I’m a feminist who’s attracted to ‘manly men’ (13  September 2016)

Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting (24 August 2016) UK

Reader’s Comment: Nottinghamshire men must stop looking at women (17 July 2016)

A life time of leers (5 June 2016) Reddit discussion thread with linked article

Where Did All The Chat Up Lines Go? Why We Miss Them… (27 November 2015)

“The days when men could be bothered to try and muster any sort of conversational gambit are gone” (6 December 2015) Reddit discussion thread and linked article

Model has ribs removed to transform into real-life Jessica Rabbit (27 November 2015)

Black Man Asks Woman For Phone Number In Oakland, She Posts Flyer About It And Calls Cops (19 October 2015)

Disgusted father tells woman on train to sit down (24 February 2012) Video Canada

Barrister names and shames senior lawyer who sent her a ‘sexist’ LinkedIn message (8 September 2015) Quite barking mad. And here is some ever-articulate commentary on the matter from ‘The Other McCain‘ (12 September 2015)

Chrissie Hynde was right about rape. Now feminists want to silence her (31 August 2015)

‘Ghosted’ by my boyfriend: After four years together he left and I never heard from him again (28 August 2015) Stick around after break-up (creepy stalker) or move on/start a clean page (thoughtless cad)

Feminists, and how to avoid them (12 August 2015)

Young women need to ‘tone down’…really? (1 August 2015) See readers comments

“In honesty, I didn’t make my sign”: SlutWalk revisited (Edmonton edition) (12 August 2015)

Guardian Author Who Called for End of Catcalling now Regrets she is not Catcalled (21 July 2015)

OK Cupid Data on Sex, Desirability, and Age (3 July 2015)

Finding a boyfriend cured my crippling loneliness, but left me feeling a bad feminist (23 June 2015) and related reddit mensrights discussion thread

The trials and tribulations of a token pretty girl (28 December 2014) and related reddit menrights discussion thread

Alex from Target: The other side of fame (12 November 2014) Objectified and harassed, but wait! How can this be? (Alex is a boy)

She explains why so many women don’t say ‘Hello.’ The reason is absolutely chilling (1 November 2014)

Rise of the Feminist Tinder-Creep-Busting Web Vigilante (27 October 2014) Read those comments and feel the frustration and anger. Next stop MGTOW

Boycott college women while in college (24 October 2014)

HuffPo and Salon slut-shame men (14 October 2014)

Vancouver men, please stop harassing women (12 October 2014)

On Not Approaching Women At All  (9 September 2014)

Fallout from campus sexual assault hysteria: College men now suspicious of women (22 August 2014)

Read transcript of an item on a US TV show entitled ‘Libs want men to stop looking at women

Feminism versus Miley Cyrus (20 April 2014)

Getting over feeling invisible after 50 (23 December 2013)

Breast enlargement remains the most popular procedure (UK) and in the United States  too (2013). In fact if you want a good chuckle then google on ‘feminism and breast augmentation’ and see the fur fly as feminists who have had their chests packed with silicon try to rationalise their decision (“I did it for myself, really”). Of course you did.

See the readers comment by ‘Okrahead’ about the spandex ‘lady’ in the gym in this article

Learn how approaching women in a nightclub is “harassment” perpetrated by “creeps”. Seriously guys, why bother? Interesting related discussion can be found here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602965/Men-try-kiss-10-minutes-meeting-Meet-tattooed-stunner-whos-popular-date-OKCupid-having-choice-men-ruining-love-life.html

In-depth: How We Waded Into The Sexual Harassment Quagmire — And How to Wade Out: One Man’s View (11 December 2011) Interesting big-picture viewpoint

The new math of campus (5 February 2010) Aw gee, not enough guys to go around on campus … and that was 2010 and there’s even less guys on campus now! ROTFL! Take a bow, feminism

And check this out too: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/topless-women-protestors-surprised-upset-as-men-show-up-with-cameras/story-e6frfku0-1225850121971

Read article entitled “Men here, they don’t even turn their head to look at you.” Awww. Gee, I wonder why this would happen … maybe because of attitudes like those expressed by the wimmin quoted below …

And here we read that British women don’t want to look at themselves in the mirror

Conclusion

Men and women are individuals whose position with regards to interacting with other individuals is influenced by many variables including age, relationship status, sexual orientation, cultural background, etc. There is no ‘one size fits all’.

Men are criticized both for approaching women, and for not approaching women. Some women live for male attention, others want none, with the remainder happy to engage at the times, and in the manner, of their choosing. Oh, and an individual woman’s position may change on a daily basis and/or depending upon the perceived attractiveness of the male who approaches her.

As women do not hold up signs advising of their own particular preferences, even well-meaning men – who comprise the overwhelming majority – are in a constant state of uncertainty, unease and frustration. Maybe if all women could organise themselves onto the same page, and circulate universal guidelines, things might be different. But we all know that’s not going to happen.

Feminists stoking the fire of misunderstanding and paranoia between the genders sure doesn’t help things, and only serves to propel ever more men towards a MGTOW lifestyle.

Elsewhere in this blog you might be interested in reading:

Girls showing their bits = empowerment? patriarchal exploitation? self-indulgence? other?
The ‘Marriage Strike’ and MGTOW
On privilege, respect, and entitlement
Fembots may prove to be a game changer
Harassment and discrimination in business and the workplace: Surprise, surprise, it goes both ways
When men have a daughter (another tale of male-blaming and silencing)

I thought women were meant to be more empathetic?

Empathy means the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

Those banging the drum about how more women should be promoted to senior management sometimes seek to support their position with sexist generalisations about how women tend to be more ethical, collegial, empathetic, and so on and so forth.

Earlier generations of Australian women were mostly empathetic to a fault. Nowadays not so much.

Empathy with the resident citizens of overseas countries

Some time ago I was reading the results of a survey of overseas travelers. It found that most travelers were disturbed by displays of cultural insensitivity by fellow travelers. Unfortunately the survey did not breakdown its results on the basis of variables such as gender.

This got me thinking about my own experiences living and travelling in Asia.

Thai culture is quite conservative but Thais will rarely inform tourists when they have crossed the border of social acceptability, unless they venture far beyond the bounds of decent behaviour. Expressions of polite conduct such as kreng jai – the Thai version of our ‘good manners’ – is highly important to them.

Mention Thailand and most people think of men behaving badly. And indeed some men do … as do some women. The difference is that those western men who misbehave tend to do so within touristy nightlife areas, in many cases within recognised ‘red light areas’. Their behaviour generally involves drunken debauchery within the confines of go-go bars or the like. There is nothing laudable about this, but at least the local Thai people in such areas tend to be inured to witnessing this type of behaviour. Outside these areas I have witnessed exceedingly few examples of western male travellers displaying overt cultural insensitivity.

In contrast I have seen many examples of western women behaving inappropriately outside the bar precincts. A common issue is that of wearing skimpy and revealing clothing in and around temples, and in public places such as markets or parks. This occurs despite the fact that any guidebook on Thailand clearly states that such clothing is considered unacceptable, as well as there being signs installed in many locations.

On this note I happened across the following comments by a female editor of an English-language magazine in Thailand:

“Then there is the trio of English lasses who were found wandering around Wat Phra Singh a few weeks back in their bikinis! It has nothing to do with cultural insensitivity or ignorance. It is just a willful refusal to give a crap. Their grandmothers would have taken a wooden spoon to their bottoms had they trotted into the local church dressed that way.”

I have never confronted anyone about this particular transgression, but from discussions in online forums the attitude seems to be “this is my style, why should I have to change to suit them?”, or they are old-fashioned/sexist and *they* should change. I have also noticed plenty of instances of western women exhibiting exceptionally intrusive, pushy and loud behaviour in public places (particularly for example during community events).

Anyway that’s what this correspondent has noticed in going about his daily business, but discussions with Thai women revealed some other issues. These were women who either ran businesses, or worked in other peoples shop-front businesses (not bar-related, I hasten to add). I must first explain that Thai women are generally in awe of western women, and in general there is no underlying animosity whatsoever.

One after the other these women told me similar accounts of their dealing with western female customers, and of their surprise, dismay and occasional anger at the rude behaviour they often encountered. This included body language (like eye rolling and pained expressions) plus clicking noises of annoyance, and rude gestures and insulting words.

As noted, these were just my own observations – what do others think? Are western women travelling overseas less inclined to observe and maintain local cultural decorum, than western men? And if so, why? Do you think it might it be related to an increasingly overdone feeling of entitlement, and of being beyond criticism/censure? That sense of feeling oneself to be a ‘special snowflake’?

Singer ‘Bjork’ clearly thought she was a very special snowflake indeed when she saw fit to assault this reporter at the airport in Bangkok. And here’s another western woman showering the Thais with empathy.

Influencer Alesya Kafelnikova apologises for nude photo with elephant (25 February 2021)

‘Super offensive’: Rihanna criticized for wearing necklace of Hindu god in topless photo (17 February 2021)

Tourist arrested over naked photos on sacred bridge in India (2 September 2020)

Naked tourist caught on video climbing onto Buddhist shrine in Thailand (12 August 2020)

‘No respect for the locals’: Bali tourist blasted over ‘shameful’ bikini act (30 October 2019)

Woman fined for tiny ‘piece of string’ bikini on Philippines island  (14 0ctober 2019)

Bizarre moment British woman ‘bites trader’s hand’ as she tried to free caged chickens in Morocco (3 September 2019)

Tourists at ancient temple in Bali blasted for ‘disgusting’ actions with holy water (14 August 2019)

And then there’s the behaviour of the USA women’s team towards the Thai team in the 2019 World Cup match (12 June 2019)

The incredible outburst that got this tourist jailed for six months in Bali (8 February 2019) And what a fine ambassador for Britain was this particular ‘lady’

Meanwhile back in the west I have noticed *many* newspaper items like these:

Woman livid when told her pants were ‘too short’ for supermarket (13 August 2020) and Melbourne woman claims she was targeted by budget airline Jetstar (6 November 2019)

And in another blog post we can see that some western women choose to behave in a racist and/or culturally insensitive manner when they are at home.

Some other incidents wherein which women display an absence of empathy:

Woman who blackmailed couple over photos of dying child appeals against jail sentence (9 February 2021) Australia

Judge accused of drinking, having sex in court removed from bench (1 September 2020) USA

Influencer apologises for defacing ancient cliffs with Instagram handle (13 August 2020)

Influencer slammed over ‘inappropriate behaviour’ in popular Bali beach (15 June 2020)

Outrage as two female tourists pose with their Mercedes SUV inside Beijing’s Forbidden City (20 January 2020)

Woman threw cat at neighbour’s door because ‘it kept coming into her garden’ (2 July 2019) UK

Feminist, Chidera Eggerue, doesn’t have time to worry about male suicide (Tweet dated 14 March 2019)

‘Fight Club’ organized by teachers at day care caught on camera (30 October 2018)

Tourists facing 10 years in Thai jail over ‘ridiculously drunk’ prank (26 October 2018)

Video shows nurses doubled over laughing as World War 2 veteran dies (19 November 2017) USA

‘Who are they gonna believe, you or me?’: Texas prosecutor fired after drunken Uber tirade (14 November 2017)

When making a sandwich is a crime against feminism, by Miranda Devine (7 October 2017) The lack of empathy by feminists towards others is legendary – here’s another example

‘Poison Ivy’, 17, bullies ‘weak’ men into degrading themselves online before encouraging them to kill themselves (26 October 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

Women more likely to get angry behind the wheel (20 October 2016) UK

First-ever survey of the motivation behind disability hate crime (9 May 2016)

“Around half (49%) of all attacks were group based. Women were involved in most group attacks (men were more involved in lone attacks).”

Inside house of horrors full of dead pets including one dog still chained to its kennel in shocking case of animal neglect (5 May 2016) UK

Rotherham woman offered safe haven to troubled girls – then pimped them out (27 February 2016) UK

Woman pretended to have cancer to get money from her boyfriend so she could pay for plastic surgery (12 February 2016) UK

‘It was the worst flight of my life’ (11 December 2015)

Secret Service Agents: Hillary is a nightmare to work with (2 October 2015)

Anesthesiologist trashes sedated patient — and it ends up costing her (23 June 2015) USA

Russia jails three young women for WWII memorial twerk (27 April 2015)

Egypt investigating how tourists filmed pornographic video near Giza pyramids (8 March 2015)

American sisters deported for naked photos at Angkor Wat (9 February 2015)

Kiwi tourist smashed Buddha statue in Cambodian temple (14 October 2014)

Other sources related to women and empathy:

Mum with autism claims she was ‘body shamed’ by Six Flags officer (news.com.au) (11 May 2021) with more details regarding her offensive behaviour here

Instagram ‘butt model’ goes viral for visiting tourists sites in New York (15 February 2021) USA. See, it’s “cheeky” when a woman does it.

Jetstar rules: Model Isabelle Eleanore told to cover up on flight (3 February 2021) Articles like this appear (just in the Australian media) on a weekly basis. News?

‘Bali bikini ban’ will help ‘transform mass tourism hot-spot’ (1 October 2018)

Charity boss jailed for stealing thousands meant for burns victims (13 June 2018)

I’ve Gotten Blown Off By Men So Much Lately That I’m Literally Questioning Everything (October 2017) Author displays total absence of understanding that men have been treated this way since forever (= well before the advent of dating apps!) Welcome to our world darling. Reader’s comments scathing but accurate.

Stereotype that women are kinder and less selfish is true, claim neuroscientists (10 October 2017)

Newsflash: Less Yelling Means More Sex (6 September 2017)

Gender differences in empathy (27 August 2016) Reddit mensrights discussion thread

Oxytocin Has a Dark Side, Says This Stanford Neurology Professor (6 July 2017)

The Absence of Empathy: Understanding the Psychology of Sociopathic Feminism (26 March 2016)

“You’re gonna get hit. It’s gonna hurt. Accept it.” Lessons from Krav Maga (14 March 2016)

Social contagion: Women more likely to yawn in response to others, study says (2 February 2016)

Ringleader in Texas’ biggest sex-trafficking ring sentenced to life in prison (20 January 2016) USA. This is not a rare exception – many women are involved in the running of human trafficking operations like this one.

Health experts warn of dangerous trend as survey finds women self-criticise eight times a day (4 January 2016) Perhaps the most worrying thing about these research findings is how little of the self-criticism relates to the impact of a women’s own behaviour on others around them … it’s all me, me, me

A Plea to Women (28 November 2015) Australia

The Empathy Gap – Fiamengo File Episode 4 (3 September 2015) Video

Woman’s Hour and the lack of understanding or empathy (1 September 2015) Reddit discussion thread

The only two “Fairy Tales” you need to understand women (1 August 2015)

Why do women have such a hard time empathizing with men? (3 April 2015)

Are men inferior to women? Let’s check the data, by Christina Hoff Sommers (30 March 2015) Video

The angry men of the Internet, by Jasmin Newman (March 2015) Australia

Men are selfish, uncaring idiots (23 December 2014)

No, I will NOT wrap all the presents. Why are women still responsible for the holiday joy? (10 December 2014)

Feminist’s perverse game to misrepresent Anti-fem righteous outrage (Youtube video) 27 July 2014

Q&A: Women are nurturing? How about cruel, especially to one another (24 August 2002)

Sorry, Martin Amis – your kindly women can do cruelty too (16 July 2010)

Mom’s Abuse Makes Man Afraid Of Women (2 November 2010)

http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/are_women_more_compassionate_than_men

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130408111841AAwBfyC

http://www.angryharry.com/Who-Is-More-Empathic-Men-Or-Women.htm

http://goingyourownway.com/showthread.php?638-The-Female-Psychosis-part-1-Egocentrism

Elsewhere in this blog see:

On being male or female (incl. innate differences, stereotyping and so on)

On privilege, respect, and entitlement

Mostly female perpetrators, so child abuse is a gendered crime then?

On violence carried out by women and girls

Not our fault so who we gonna blame? The (scary, scary) patriarchy!

Well the term ‘patriarchy’ gets thrown around a lot by feminists. Apparently it’s like hell for women. Sort of a catch-all for all the bad things that happen to women that can’t be (in their minds) blamed either on themselves or one particular guy.

Wikipedia defines patriarchy as:

“Patriarchy is a social system in which males are the primary authority figures central to social organization, occupying roles of political leadership, moral authority, and control of property, and where fathers hold authority over women and children. It implies the institutions of male rule and privilege, and entails female subordination.”

Basically feminists claim that men have constructed, and continue to maintain, a social paradigm expressly designed for our own benefit. If that were the case then it’s hard to explain statistics like these and these, showing men at a disadvantage is so many areas. I figure that us guys could build a better paradigm than that.

Yes, there are ruling elites present within our society. And yes, well over 50% of their members are probably men. But a social system created by men for men? A fairy tale. And don’t anyone dare suggest that the ruling coven of contemporary feminists are in fact a ruling elite in their own right (and one that continues to grow in influence).

The following articles explore the concept of patriarchy in some detail:

Why American Men Must Learn to Say No to Women – Woke Father (4 June 2021)

The Matriarchy – Patriarchy Continuum (18 January 2016) USA

The top 10 ways men are getting a raw deal in the world of work (25 August 2014)

Why patriarchy is the greatest social system ever created (6 February 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/activism/patriarchy-for-dummies/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/the-patriarchy-myth-revealed/

http://owningyourshit.blogspot.com.au/2011/07/patriarchy-shmatriarchy.html

http://www.genderratic.com/p/820/a-new-definition-of-patriarchy/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/gynocentrism/feminist-archeologist-accidentally-destroys-feminist-theory-of-patriarchy/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/the-intersection-of-patriarchy-theory-and-female-accountability/

See also:

http://www.debate.org/forums/Society/topic/39026/

http://fraudulentfeminist.tumblr.com/post/71689573208/i-need-feminism-because-the-patriarchy-isnt

http://www.genderratic.com/p/2645/hypoagency-hypoagency-and-blaming-everything-on-men/

I’ll dig out some more references over time and add them here (feel free to suggest some)

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Privilege, respect, and entitlement

Privilege

Felicitous feminism (23 July 2019) Article by Mark Dent

Kathy Gyngell: The silence of the males (13 November 2017)

There is no ‘debate’ to be had over the existence of male privilege, by Ruby Hamad (1 June 2017)

Insanity grows on Australian campuses: Melbourne U starts “white male privilege” workshops (30 May 2017)

Do you think women will ever recognise their privilege? (23 December 2016) Reddit men’s rights discussion thread.

Lessons on ‘male privilege’ in $21.8m Victorian schools program (14 October 2016) Australia

Is it ever possible to accept victimhood as a man? (7 October 2016)

Ten privileges of being male (4 October 2016) Video

Women Are Privileged, But Feminism Lies to Us (14 July 2016) USA

I love my female privilege, by Janet Bloomfield (2 April 2016) USA. Video. Don’t miss the viewers comments

Feminism = Theft (2 January 2016)

The truth about male privilege, by Stefan Molyneux (27 May 2015) Video

Finland Warns 900,000 Men About War Conscription; Feminists Remain Silent (9 June 2015)

Louder Than Words: What Modern Feminism Has Actually Achieved (3 June 2015)

The harrowingly oppressive burden of female privilege (9 January 2015)

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I renounce my female legal privileges (11 October 2014)

5 legal rights that women have that men don’t (13 August 2014)

48 Female Privileges, by Sargon of Akkad (7 May 2014) Video

It happened to me: I’m a short guy (30 January 2012)

Abandoning men: Jill gets welfare – Jack becomes homeless (15 April 2011)

How can you be an anti-feminist? Do you not believe in equality?

http://thoughtcatalog.com/chelsea-fagan/2013/02/white-girl-privilege-and-the-problem-with-blaming-all-men/

http://equality4men.com/2013/11/03/10-reasons-we-need-a-campaign-to-end-violence-against-men-and-boys/

Why do white men have any right to give their WHITE MAN opinions about non WHITE MAN issues?

Pray men never take a day off (18 September 2013)

http://youngcons.com/meet-the-poster-child-for-white-privilege-then-have-your-mind-blown/ (reprinted here with many readers comments)

http://www.theonion.com/articles/white-male-privilege-squandered-on-job-at-best-buy,35835/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2606501/As-UN-inspector-claims-worlds-sexist-country-Sexist-Nonsense-Britain-best-place-Earth-woman.html

http://thoughtcatalog.com/mark-saunders/2014/04/18-things-females-seem-to-not-understand-because-female-privilege/ and the subsequent feminist response here

http://thoughtcatalog.com/gordon-avery/2014/04/female-privilege-is-real-and-we-need-to-talk-about-it-like-adults/#disqus_thread

http://www.cultural-misandry.com/female-only-programs/ versus http://www.cultural-misandry.com/mens-rights/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/230e22/privilege_checking_is_classist_and_ineffective/

http://dontneedfeminism.tumblr.com/post/71296725109/discrimination-of-men-facts

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Respect

A while ago I came across a US state program that was designed to encourage males to have respect for women. The organisation ‘A Voice for Men’ responded with a provocative and graphic statement along the lines of “we’ll have respect for those people who are deserving of respect”. Read the comments that follow the pictures to capture the essence of the ensuing discussion.

David was one amongst the many feminists and camp followers to bite back. David’s article concluded with the statement:

“The logic here is airtight: because some women get drunk and urinate in public, women don’t deserve respect.

I guess men never get drunk and urinate in public, or ever do anything vaguely embarrassing that gets caught on camera?

Is it really asking too much to respect people as people, foibles and all?”

Well David, yes it is too much to ask of feminists apparently. Can you name even one single male “foible” that feminists are willing to accept?

Men do some gross things, and its usually no-one’s fault but our own. The difference is that we admit it instead of denying it to maintain a moral high ground above the opposite sex … or alternatively blaming our behaviour on someone else or some mythical matriarchy. Hell when some guys really go too far we even express pointed criticism of their behaviour, and urge them to lift their game. Another significant point of difference, yes?

If feminists were truly into equality then surely they would support a reciprocal program that urged girls and women to ‘Respect men’. No? What’s that I hear? Guffaws of laughter instead? Telling, isn’t it?

In fact on that point, a post that I recently contributed to an online discussion was zapped by a moderator because I concluded with the suggestion that women should respect men (in the same sentence I also said men should respect women). It wasn’t even a feminist site either. This is what things have come to … simply suggesting that women should respect men is just cause to be labelled a ‘redneck’ or similar.

I guess one gender must be more equal than the other, or something.

See also:

Feminists praise Cardi B for rapping about her vagina and being paid for sex (13 April 2020)

Mum quizzed by cops for ‘using sick son’s £10,000 charity fund on boob job and car’ (9 June 2020)

CNN Advocates Female Infidelity As Best Way For Women To “Endure” Modern Marriage (6 October 2017)

Bad Girls Advice group removed from Facebook over bestiality posts (22 July 2017)

UCSC Girls: College Boys are Creepy, Arrogant, and Suck in Bed (17 April 2017) USA. So much respect

YouTuber promises to release sex tape (23 January 2017) Feminists can find the time to criticize men on the basis of just about anything, but criticise a woman for eroding respect for women? No way, well not unless they are conservative and/or anti-feminist.

Stripper: There are many girls like Stacey (8 January 2017) Australia. Not seeing any thing here along the lines of an admission of greed, amorality and reckless stupidity. Yeah, girl power

Queensland woman in custody over sex acts with dog (20 November 2016)

Women now use the F-bomb more than men (8 November 2016)

Ladies, you are an utter disgrace (2 November 2016)

Former wife of All Black talks about ‘rampant temptation’ players face (7 October 2016) Notice there is not even a hint of criticism directed towards the girls/women throwing themselves at the players.

Woman arrested for urinating on war memorial (3 July 2016) UK

Ladies, you need to stop husband-shaming (11 May 2016)

Why are married women leaving their men? (14 April 2016)

Mum smoked meth while men gang-raped daughter (6 April 2016) USA

Gold Coast cancer fraud mum sentenced to five years in jail (29 March 2016)

Moment two women who promised a holidaymaker a threesome lead the weary man to a cash machine to empty his bank account after spiking his drink at a Spanish bar (19 March 2016)

Video emerges of half naked woman brawling with another outside late night kebab shop (12 January 2016) UK

Monica Lynn travelled the world for free by getting her dates to pay for it (2 January 2016)

The art of ‘rinsing’ landed these sisters $160,000 worth of gifts (27 November 2015)

Woman who trashed Perth pub toilet in drunk viral video says the exposure has devastated her life (26 November 2015)

It’s time for men to stop putting women down (25 September 2015) Because women never treat men like this

Arielle Engert allegedly offered oral sex to three cops to get all charges dropped (3 September 2015) USA

Woman soaks passengers on Melbourne train after they ask her to turn her music down (31 August 2015) Australia

Disrespecting respectability, dishonoring the honorable, by Dalrock (9 July 2015)

My husband forgot Mother’s Day flowers, so I had sex with someone else (2 May 2015)

Kendall Schler is the world’s dodgiest athlete (20 April 2015)

‘Help! I just accidentally slept with 25 men and I don’t know who the father is…’ (14 April 2015)

University student caught broadcasting live solo sex shows from the campus library (18 November 2014) And if it was a male student he would have been booted not “counselled”

Hello Sunday Morning: Young Australian women are most dependent on alcohol (12 November 2014)

Ladies, It’s Time To Take Responsibility For Your Failed Relationships (11 November 2014)

Vine celebrity Jessica Vanessa quit her job as a kindergarten teacher, now makes six figures from twerking (17 October 2014)

Dwarf stripper gets bride-to-be pregnant on her hens night (11 October 2014)

A question of respect, by Hannah Wallen (14 September 2014)

Women admit to regular lies (29 August 2001)

Russell Brand says no to Katy Perry’s $44 million fortune

The Scarlet Manifesto: The Rise of the Adulterous Woman (13 October 2012)

Sex, lies and ‘rinsing’ guys – Youtube video – Just don’t call them prostitutes

After ditching her family, Occupy mom snags $85k in divorce (28 October 2012)

Women paying for cab fares with blow-jobs (5 March 2014)

Sex-for-drinks scandal erupts in Mallorca (4 July 2014)

Your husband doesn’t have to earn your respect (22 February 2014)

Entitlement

“What happened to the modern man? I think he got left behind and died of starvation because I don’t see any around these days. I went on a date the other night, shocking right? But when the dinner came to an end and we were laughing away into the sunrise and the check came out- he slid it towards me. If you need to re-read that last sentence then please do so now.

Ahh yes, he slid the check to me and asked to split. The worst word in the English dictionary. Right next to debt and vegetarian. I mean, nobody wants to split their pants, their hair line, alcohol, or especially, a check. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not some mega bitch, but guys will always make more money than girls.” (Source)

‘Mercedes Mum’ Margarite Tomovska pleading for money online to fund lavish lifestyle (31 May 2019)

Has Tinder really made the modern women this spoiled & entitled? (3 November 2016) See related Reddit discussion thread here.

Entitled People Are More Likely to Be Disappointed by Life (15 September 2016)

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Why feminists hate debating anti-feminists (26 August 2016) Feminists feel entitled to not have their opinions challenged because only they can know their experience as a woman. Although they see no such contraint to understanding/explaining/judging men’s experiences.

Why are feminists absolutely obsessed with entitlement? (11 April 2016)

The fickle face of feminism: Women are fine with sexism… as long as it benefits them, says new study (5 February 2016)

Stripper: Rich Wall Street executives deserved to be drugged and robbed (30 December 2015) USA

David Futrelle defends female entitlement (23 November 2015) Reddit discussion thread and linked article

“The Alpha Widow” (6 November 2015) Reddit discussion thread

Feminists Are Wrong, Women Are More Privileged and Entitled to Space (5 November 2015)

The most ungrateful woman in the world (24 April 2013) Video

Gender identity triangle (3 June 2015) Youtube video

Entitlement, “Nice Guys”, and Feminism (3 June 2015)

The Reality of #GiveYourMoneyToWomen (31 May 2015)

Chivalry but equality: The feminist double-standard, by Prentice Reid (21 April 2015)

When billionaires divorce: wife ‘needs $8600 a month for groceries’  (25 February 2015)

How the feminine imperative “just happens” by Dalrock (26 December 2012)

‘The Missing Fear’ by Dalrock (9 December 2011)

Appreciation by Rollo Tomassi (14 November 2011)

White House meets with activists calling for gender equity in My Brother’s Keeper (15 July 2014) The current US administration shamelessly panders to the feminist hierarchy. They finally introduce one (1!) program aimed at helping males, and even then they had to exclude white males because of the anticipated backlash. Were feminists willing to make this one small concession? Oh no. Let’s not worry about the scores of pre-existing programs from which males are excluded. It’s pathetic, it really is. When are people going to wake up to what is going on?

Psychologists find that entitlement predicts sexism, in both men and women (7 June 2014)

The culture of narcissism and the female entitlement mentality (25 June 2024)

A Middle-aged Princess grows up

http://www.kidstrangelove.com/2014/04/16/the-1-rule-of-malefemale-interaction/

The top 10 reasons men should avoid princesses (27 March 2012)

A tongue-in-cheek Youtube video about modern-day princesses

What A Shame!Gold Diggers In Training Mothers Teaching Their Little Girls To Marry For Money (21 February 2010) YouTube video

Helena Andrews explains why men should always pay for dinner by Janet Bloomfield (9 September 2013)

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Some related posts within this blog:

Female privilege check-list
If feminists have a genuine case then what’s with all the distortion, lies and exaggeration?
Persistent pro-feminist and anti-male bias in the mainstream media
Karen Straughan and others on feminist shaming tactics
Men in the media. Haw Haw Haw! The jokes on us

If the central tenet of feminism is equality then what mens/boys causes have feminists championed recently?

Anything?

Someone?

Anyone?

And this despite the fact that:

1. Men are continually being called upon to support and intervene in situations where women are in a situation of real or imagined disadvantage, and

2. There are many areas where the support of women’s groups and individual women would be invaluable, as demonstrated in the following links:

Carpe Diem, American Enterprise Institute, by Mark J Perry. Be sure to check out this table, which is periodically updated.

RealSexism.com

http://philosophyofmensissues.blogspot.ca/2014/10/evidence-re-gender-equality-and-feminism.html

http://dontneedfeminism.com/post/70993946998/how-can-you-be-anti-feminist-do-you-not-believe

http://www.avoiceformen.com/the-facts-about-men-and-boys/

http://whitehouseboysmen.org/blog/grading-president-obama-on-his-treatment-of-mens-issues

Sixty More Reasons why Modern Feminism is complete BS: The Facts Sheet

Ok, well while someone thinks of a concrete example of how feminists have lent tangible support to an area where men/boys are disadvantaged, please read the comments contributed in this discussion entitled ‘Do you think feminism is becoming a sexist anti-men movement?’

And then peruse the following sources:

Feminist Lara Witt advises that “on a weekly basis, cisgender men ask me how they can be (better) allies. I don’t usually respond because I’m forever tired of teaching for free. So because I’m super generous I decided to put together this primer on … How men can be slightly less trash” (4 March 2019)

Women’s Network tries to hijack International Men’s Day! (22 September 2017) Video. You couldn’t make this stuff up … An IMD2017 event organised by women’s group behind cover of bogus men’s group, with proceeds to pro-feminist group that ignores male victims of domestic violence.

College Gender Gap: Women Earn More Degrees AND Get Special Treatment (31 May 2017) USA

How To Respond To The Current Feminist Mantra ‘Men’s Problems Today Are Simply The Result Of Traditional Gender Roles’ (3 February 2017) Reddit discussion thread

Why did the BBC erase the 88% of rough sleepers who are men? And what can we do about it? (28 January 2017)

Rough sleeping rises at appalling rate, charity says, as figures show 16% rise (25 January 2017) More men affected? Let’s remove gender from the debate then … or simply ignore men.

Elite Daily columnist: “It’s OK To Hate Men Because of Trump” (23 January 2017)

Feminism’s benefits for men (20 November 2016) Reddit mensrights discussion thread

Can’t we all just get along? (4 November 2016) Australia

Defining, Demonstrating, & Understanding Male Disposability (30 September 2016). See related Reddit discussion thread here, and note in particular the comment by ‘Numbers2357’.

An open letter to the men who say they don’t need feminism, by Julia Lynn Rubin (29 September 2016) USA. Hmm, seems to be a bit of push-back in the reader’s comments Julia. Methinks your case is weak.

Karl McCartney MP: Shrill equality warriors ignore half the human race (16 September 2016)

I wish men were as interested in discussing gender issues as women are (1 September 2016) Choke on the hypocrisy and misandry  inherent in this offering

This feminist offers equality to men in relation to objectification, but only subject to her conditions (17 August 2016) UK. See related Reddit discussion thread here.

“Nice” feminism: How a hate movement uses its grassroots against men, by Hannah Wallen (4 June 2016) Recommended reading

Does the NUS have a man problem? (31 May 2016) UK

Florida N.O.W. The State’s Most Powerful Feminist Lobby Group Lies About Shared Parenting Bill During Opposition (10 April 2016) USA

University Won’t Recognize Men’s Issues Group after Feminists Say it Makes Women Feel Unsafe (29 January 2016) with related reddit discussion thread here

Ryerson’s independent student newspaper the Eyeopener reports the Ryerson Students’ Union (RSU) has “rejected the last appeal” to have the school sanction the Men’s Issues Awareness Society (MIAS).

According to the group’s president, Kevin Arriola, the point of the group is to raise “issues that have never been [talked] about or usually disregarded.”

MIAS has received its major opposition from the school’s Feminist Collective.

In November, Ryerson Feminist Collective organizer Arezoo Najibzadeh called the idea of the group “horrifying.” Najibzadeh said, “I think it’s just horrifying. I don’t see the benefit of having them on campus.”

Men’s Affairs Department redundant as enough laws protecting men, women’s groups say (5 January 2016) Malaysia

““We have a women’s ministry which is to escalate and ensure women’s issues issues are brought to the forefront and to the centre of government policy because at this time there’s clearly serious gender inequality in society…It is almost like nullifying the efforts of the women’s ministry, having a Men’s Affairs Department,” Women’s Aid Organisation (WAO) executive director Sumitra Visvanathan said in a phone interview with Malay Mail Online”

Has anyone else noticed how it’s becoming more common for feminists to claim that they care about men’s issues too, when there is an abundance of evidence that shows otherwise? (18 December 2015) Reddit mensrights discussion thread

This fellow has compiled dozens of links to sources showing how feminists have actively undermined the rights and welfare of men and boys (14 December 2015)

See the articles in this other post, regarding actions taken by York University (UK) in November 2015 to stop discussion of male issues on International Men’s Day

Who’s really being silenced in the gender debate? (4 November 2015)

Feminists Fight To Harm Men NOT To Empower Women (undated) Contains many links to related sources providing examples of feminism working against the interests of men/boys

A Critique of Feminism: A Humanitarian Won’t be Silenced about Sexual and Domestic Violence (24 August 2015)

“I’m just going to say it: Sometimes I feel sorry for men” (July 2015) This is a fairly typical NAFALT ‘look, feminists understand’ piece – the closest thing to  genuine sympathy that any feminist will put her name to. But nowhere will you see any form of acknowledgement that women are partially responsible for the pressure that men face. Instead it is always “people” or “society” that force men to adopt/maintain assigned gender roles. And of course no examples are provided as to where women have actively assisted with any problematic issues affecting men/boys.

Men adrift (30 May 2015) The Economist

Poster at University of Queensland: this room is “a safer space for anyone who is not a cis-man” (25 May 2015)

The denigration of men: Ridiculed, abused, exploited – the triumph of feminism has made today’s men second class citizens, argues a deliciously provocative new book And it’s time the chaps fought back (18 April 2015)

Men more likely than women to be cut off benefits due to “cruel” and “unfair” reasons, survey suggests (6 April 2015) U.K.

Are female MPs the most sexist against men? Very much so, especially if they’re Lib Dems (24 March 2015) Shared parenting

Paternity Fraud Begs the Question: Who’s Your Daddy? (25 February 2015)

Official thinking on involving men in “gender equality” still getting it wrong (9 March 2015)

NOW panics and dumps articles after AVFM exposes hypocrisy (8 March 2015)

Leslie Loftis: Mothers speak up for their sons – and enrage hardline feminists (5 March 2015)

Response to opinion editor’s idea of feminism (6 December 2014)

The right kind of equality (21 October 2014)

U.S Open gilds the lily of anti-male discrimination (8 September 2014)

Barnardo’s: Sexual exploitation of boys overlooked (26 August 2014)

Feminists oppose alimony law reform in Florida (reddit discussion thread, August 2014)

The Mask You Live In: One Time Pays For Naught (13 December 2013)

Two dozen women urge Scott to veto alimony bill (26 April 2013) and here

Comprehensive listing of where and when the feminist lobby have fought against reforms that would promote equality for men/boys (10 September 2014)

http://www.christianpost.com/news/obama-blocks-white-house-council-on-boys-and-men-113897/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/answering-a-schoolgirls-questions/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/this-is-what-a-feminist-looks-like/

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/gentleman_scholar/2014/03/advice_for_men_about_collar_stays_cohabitation_and_the_men_s_rights_movement.2.html

http://breakingtheglasses.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/yes-all-feminists-are-like-that.html#.U0oDOlWSySo

http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/mens-issues/suicide-the-problem-they-claim-to-be-working-on-but-arent/ consent

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How feminists misrepresent the gender ‘wage gap’

Some people call the notion of a gender pay gap a ‘myth’, but it does in fact exist. A certain mythical element arises however in the way that feminists blatantly misrepresent the pay gap to support and advance their peculiarly jaundiced view of the world. You see, feminists would have us believe that women earn substantially less than men for doing the same work, and that this is primarily the result of sexist bias by employers. Such a position is equal parts over-simplification and outright falsehood, yet it forms a key prop in the gender feminists’ claim of perennial victimhood at the hands of a cruel and unyielding patriarchy.

Indeed, all manner of people – even ex-President Obama – keep spouting this bunkum, and the mainstream media laps it up and repeats it ad nauseam. (Oh, and by the way, Politi-Fact rated the President’s statement as ‘mostly false’, with further comments here).

Feminists conveniently neglect to tell everyone that:

  • as you drill down into the data looking at particular segments of the workforce, one is increasingly likely to find that the wage gap favours women – not men
  • pay disparity is the outcome of many different variables, of which sexist discrimination by employers is just one – and a relatively minor one at that

Indeed the most significant variables affecting pay rates relate to personal choices made by individual employees, choices such as type of job, amount of overtime worked, etc.

Feminists also avoid mentioning those variations of pay gap other than gender, such as the ‘gaps’ based on race or sexual orientation. Take a look, for example, at ‘Lesbians earn more than straight women – but gay men are penalised‘ (18 December 2014):

“In Britain, lesbians are paid an average of eight per cent more than straight women, with the trend even more extreme in other western countries. In the US, the difference is 20 per cent …

Dr Nick Drydakis, senior lecturer in economics at Anglia Ruskin University in the UK who authored the World Bank report, said pay differentials were explained by the career and lifestyle choices that gay women were more likely make.

“Lesbians may realise early in life that they will not marry into a traditional household,” he said.”

So, does this mean that employers actively discriminate against straight women?

As a poster on a related reddit discussion thread so aptly stated:

“Love the way it’s so obviously special pleading.
Gay men earn less? Must be discrimination!
Lesbians earn more? Must be lifestyle choices.
Women earn less? Must be sexism.
Men earn less? Must be lifestyle choices.”

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Please take a moment to review some or all of the following sources:

The Factual Feminist‘ (Christina Hoff Sommers) looks at the wage gap issue Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3

Summary points from the book ‘Why Men Earn More‘ by Warren Farrell

The obscene gender pay gap at the Wimbledon tennis championships (14 July 2019)

Harvard Study Confirms the Gender Wage Gap is Just a Myth (11 December 2018)

A new Labor Dept. report reveals the bulk of the gender earnings gap can be explained by age, hours worked, and marital status (6 September 2018)

A Comprehensive Look at Gender Equality: Taking On The Institute For Women’s Policy Research (20 April 2018)

The relationship between taxation and the Gender Pay Gap (17 November 2017)

Gender pay gap ‘fundamentally misleading’ and promotes ‘victim mentality’ – study claims (10 November 2017)

Feminist group admits ‘pay gap’ is caused by women’s choices (22 September 2017)

The Gender Pay Gap is real. Here’s proof (29 August 2017) Discusses a recent NZ study which failed to convince most (all?) of those who contributed reader’s comments.

Mike Buchanan discusses the gender pay gap with three feminists (26 August 2017) Video. See interesting comment by Desmond Roberts:

“The easiest way to solve the ‘gender pay gap’ would be to make it a criminal offence for a man to financially subsidize ANY woman, even his wife. Then women would have an incentive to work to the best of their earning potential regardless of the wealth of their male spouse.”

Gender pay gap in modelling industry sees women earn 75% more than men (28 July 2017)

Though Outnumbered, Female CEOs Earn More Than Male Chiefs (31 May 2017)

The £625 acting classes teaching young women how to beat men to City jobs (17 May 2017) Simplistic and false notions re: the pay gap lead to simplistic and ineffective ‘solutions’

Jordan Holbrook: Equal Pay Day? Wimmin are laughing all the way to the bank (15 May 2017) Recommended reading

The Gender Pay Gap Is Largely Because of Motherhood (13 May 2017)

“What’s Your Major”: Another Blow to the So-Called Gender Pay Gap (20 April 2017)

Young women are getting richer, as young men get poorer (April 20, 2017)

The gender income gap in more than 1000 occupations, in one chart (20 April 2017) See related Reddit discussion thread here.

Millennial women are ‘worried,’ ‘ashamed’ of out-earning boyfriends and husbands (19 April 2017) A different perspective on the wage gap. Now men get to be shamed for earning more – and less – than women, at the same time.

How Jessica Chastain Negotiates for Equal Pay (17 April 2017) See comment by reader ‘Godzilla502’

The truth about the gender wage gap (8 March 2017)

Teacher advises student to “look for feminist sources” regarding wage gap (7 March 2017)

Revealed: The Gender Pay Gap Feminists don’t want to talk about, by Martin Daubney (17 January 2017) UK

Earnings inequality among men soars (13 January 2017) UK. There are many significant pay gaps other than all men v all women, but any gaps that don’t support the feminist narrative tend to be ignored. This study is just one of many examples.

Men still paid vastly more than women on average in UK – study (28 November 2016)

“blah, blah, blah Where men and women are doing the same job, they are usually paid almost the same – although men still have a slight advantage, earning an average of 1.6% more blah blah blah”

The Global Gender Paygap report – Or how to fit statistics to narrative (23 November 2016) Reddit mensrights discussion thread

Four ways the gender pay gap isn’t all it seems (29 August 2016) Even the normally pro-feminist BBC doesn’t back the feminist archetype re: this issue

Gender pay gap: Trend shows women in NI earn more than men (23 August 2016) Ireland. “Defying the gender pay gap” or simply disproving it?

The Pay Gap myth and other lies that won’t die (9 August 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

Desperately holding on to the debunked idea of gender wage gap by Ashe Schow (30 June 2016)

Do women really want equality? by Nikita Coulombe (12 May 2016) USA

And now some cuck blames ambitious men for making the pay gap larger in ‘Too Many Elite American Men Are Obsessed With Work and Wealth‘ (28 April 2016)

Daniel Radcliffe: How can this still be happening? (25 April 2016) Harry Potter actor talks about how much more male Hollywood actors are paid. Neglects to mention factors inconsistent with feminist narrative – like the pay differential for fashion models for e.g.

Gender Pay Gap Solution: Ban Stay-at-Home Moms (13 April 2016) USA

Young women are asking for (and getting) more pay than men (12 April 2016) USA

Don’t Buy Into The Gender Pay Gap Myth (12 April 2016) USA

The gender pay gap (March 2016) A major study by Korn Ferry/Hay Group, including data from 33 countries

The ‘gender pay gap’ is mostly garbage (8 March 2016) Australia

Daily Reminder That the Wage Gap Isn’t Real (5 March 2016) A list of links to articles and videos debunking the gender pay gap, some of which will already be included in my post, others not.

Belinda Brown: Gender pay gap explained. Men work longer hours in tough jobs (15 February 2016) UK How many more articles like this need to be published before feminists finally retire this ridiculous icon of victimhood.

The Gender Pay Gap is Dead (15 February 2016)

Harvard prof. takes down gender wage gap myth (13 January 2016)

The true story of the gender pay gap (7 January 2016)

Opinion: Hillary Clinton is wrong on the so-called war against women (7 January 2016)

Why politicians are asking the wrong questions about gender inequality (5 November 2015)

Women in their 20s earn more than men of same age, study finds  (29 August 2015)

Gender Pay Gap Conspiracy Theorists #WomensEqualityDay (26 August 2015) A video by Sargon of Akkad

Intrinsic Value Gap – Tim Goldich – Man Against the Wall (31 May 2015) Recommended viewing!

There’s No ‘Gender Pay Gap’, But Here Are 11 Reasons Why There Should Be (1 June 2015)

The “wage gap” is evidence that Western women are pampered, coddled and spoiled (4 May 2015)

Surprise! Women trump men on CEO pay (30 April 2015) USA

Student’s account of biased presentation by professor at American university (29 April 2015)

‘Equal pay day’ this year is April 14; the next ‘equal occupational fatality day’ will be on July 29, 2027, by Mark J. Perry (13 April 2015)

The Gender Pay Gap is a myth – So why do so many buy it? (9 March 2015)

What Matt Yglesias Got Wrong on the Gender Pay Gap (25 February 2015)

No, women don’t make less money than men by Christina Hoff Sommers (1 February 2015)

The pay gap is caused by personality not gender, so what personality will earn you more money? (3 December 2014)

The Gender Pay Gap Revealed in Tech; Glassdoor Report (17 November 2014)

Are women CEO’s also sexist? (18 November 2014)

A modest proposal for closing the gender wage gap by Ashe Schow (13 November 2014)

Gender income propaganda (3 November 2014) UK

Global gender gap: Equality is overrated (31 October 2014)

CNN reporting feelings on pay gap as fact, despite the actual facts reporting it doesn’t exist (1 November 2014)

Debunking the myth of the mythical gender pay gap (8 April 2014)

The g Economist takes on your attacks over the (lack of a) gender gap in tech salaries (10 March 2014)

If you’re under 40, the biggest gender pay gap is experienced by men (11 August 2014)

No, women don’t make less money than men by Christina Hoff Sommers (1 February 2014)

“Here is a list of the ten most remunerative majors compiled by the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. Men overwhelmingly outnumber women in all but one of them:

1.   Petroleum Engineering: 87% male
2.   Pharmacy Pharmaceutical Sciences and Administration: 48% male
3.   Mathematics and Computer Science: 67% male
4.   Aerospace Engineering: 88% male
5.   Chemical Engineering: 72% male
6.   Electrical Engineering: 89% male
7.   Naval Architecture and Marine Engineering: 97% male
8.   Mechanical Engineering: 90% male
9.   Metallurgical Engineering: 83% male
10. Mining and Mineral Engineering: 90% male

And here are the 10 least remunerative majors—where women prevail in nine out of ten:

1.  Counseling Psychology: 74% female
2.  Early Childhood Education: 97% female
3.  Theology and Religious Vocations: 34% female
4.  Human Services and Community Organization: 81% female
5.  Social Work: 88% female
6.  Drama and Theater Arts: 60% female
7.   Studio Arts: 66% female
8.   Communication Disorders Sciences and Services: 94% female
9.   Visual and Performing Arts: 77% female
10. Health and Medical Preparatory Programs: 55% female”

Dondi’s clock and the paradox of the wage gap (19 July 2014)

The ’77 cents on the dollar’ myth about women’s pay (The Wall Street Journal, 7 April 2014)

Fair Pay isn’t always equal pay‘ (New York Times)

Why do female models make more than male models (10 October 2013) 10 x more!

Women’s pay to overtake men’s by 2020 (23 November 2011)

The 15 jobs where women earn more than men (14 March 2011)

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2013/09/ceteris-paribus-once-you-start-controlling-for-important-factors-the-17-8-gender-wage-gap-starts-to-disappear/

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/17/77-Cents-Worth-of-Lies

‘There is no male-female wage gap’, Wall Street Journal, 12 April 2011

Young women are now earning more than men – that’s not sexist, just fair (27 November 2011)

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-to-push-myths-about-working-women-in-florida/article/2545982

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/03/how-male-jobs-hurt-female-paychecks/284495/#comments

The Pay Gap Myth that won’t die (a Youtube video by Warren Farrell)

http://shriverreport.org/gender-equality-is-a-myth-beyonce (Read the comments, the article itself offers no worthwhile insights)

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jan/29/barack-obama/barack-obama-state-union-says-women-make-77-cents-/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/gaps-damned-gaps-and-statistics/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/what-pay-gap/

http://healthland.time.com/2013/11/11/ten-things-you-didnt-know-about-the-gender-gap/

http://www.learnliberty.org/content/do-women-earn-less-men

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865581083/Do-women-earn-less-then-men-Not-necessarily-study-says.html

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/16/opinion/drexler-equal-pay/index.html?hpt=hp_c3

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-pay-gap-is-a-complete-myth/

http://anti-feminism-pro-equality.tumblr.com/wagegap and http://anti-feminism-pro-equality.tumblr.com/wagegap2

http://c4mb.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/dr-catherine-hakims-preference-theory/

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2013/08/gender_pay_gap_the_familiar_line_that_women_make_77_cents_to_every_man_s.html

http://www.forbes.com/2006/03/07/glass-ceiling-opportunities–cx_hc_0308glass.html 

http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=9646807 (“Is gender balance in university programs worth pursuing?”)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/04/09/the-paycheck-fairness-bill-failed-in-the-senate-today-it-wouldnt-have-eliminated-the-wage-gap-anyway/

This 2011 article in the New York Times, ‘They call it the reverse gender gap‘, discusses the woes of women earning more than many men (yes, even back in 2011!)

This paper deals with the effect of feminist lobbying on employment opportunities for men:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp

I came across this interesting post whilst reading an article about comparative health expenditure for men and women:

Re: “But they make less money no matter what the job”

Wrong. “In 2011, 22% of male physicians and 44% of female physicians worked less than full time, up from 7% of men and 29% of women from Cejka’s 2005 survey.” (See ama-assn.org/amednews/2012/03/26/bil10326.htm)

That’s just one of countless examples showing that some of the most sophisticated women in the country choose to earn less while getting paid at the same rate as their male counterparts.

A thousand laws won’t close that gap.

In fact, no law yet has closed the gender wage gap — not the 1963 Equal Pay for Equal Work Act, not Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, not the 1978 Pregnancy Discrimination Act, not affirmative action (which has benefited mostly white women, the group most vocal about the wage gap – tinyurl.com/74cooen), not the 1991 amendments to Title VII, not the 1991 Glass Ceiling Commission created by the Civil Rights Act, not the 1993 Family and Medical Leave Act, not diversity, not the countless state and local laws and regulations, not the thousands of company mentors for women, not the horde of overseers at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and not the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which is another feel-good bill that turned into another do-nothing law (good intentions do not necessarily make things better; sometimes, the path to a worse condition is paved with good intentions)…. Nor will a “paycheck fairness” law work.

That’s because women’s pay-equity advocates, who always insist one more law is needed, continue to overlook the effects of female AND male behavior:

Despite the 40-year-old demand for women’s equal pay, millions of wives still choose to have no pay at all. In fact, according to Dr. Scott Haltzman, author of “The Secrets of Happily Married Women,” stay-at-home wives, including the childless who represent an estimated 10 percent, constitute a growing niche. “In the past few years,” he says in a CNN report at tinyurl.com/6reowj, “many women who are well educated and trained for career tracks have decided instead to stay at home.” (“Census Bureau data show that 5.6 million mothers stayed home with their children in 2005, about 1.2 million more than did so a decade earlier….” at tinyurl.com/qqkaka. If indeed a higher percentage of women is staying at home, perhaps it’s because feminists and the media have told women for years that female workers are paid less than men in the same jobs — so why bother working if they’re going to be penalized and humiliated for being a woman.)

As full-time mothers or homemakers, stay-at-home wives earn zero. How can they afford to do this while in many cases living in luxury? Answer: Because they’re supported by their husband, an “employer” who pays them to stay at home. (Far more wives are supported by a spouse than are husbands.)

The implication of this is probably obvious to most 12-year-olds but seems incomprehensible to, or is wrongly dismissed as irrelevant by, feminists and the liberal media: If millions of wives are able to accept NO wages, millions of other wives, whose husbands’ incomes vary, are more often able than husbands to:

-accept low wages
-refuse overtime and promotions
-choose jobs based on interest first, wages second — the reverse of what men tend to do (The most popular job for American women as of 2010 is still secretary/administrative assistant, which has been a top ten job for women for the last 50 years. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/gender-wage-gap_n_3424084.html)
-take more unpaid days off
-avoid uncomfortable wage-bargaining (tinyurl.com/3a5nlay)
-work fewer hours than their male counterparts, or work less than full-time instead of full-time (as in the above example regarding physicians)

Any one of these job choices lowers women’s median pay relative to men’s. And when a wife makes one of the choices, her husband often must take up the slack, thereby increasing HIS pay.

Women who make these choices are generally able to do so because they are supported — or, if unmarried, anticipate being supported — by a husband who feels pressured to earn more than if he’d chosen never to marry. (Married men earn more than single men, but even many men who shun marriage, unlike their female counterparts, feel their self worth is tied to their net worth.) This is how MEN help create the wage gap: as a group they tend more than women to pass up jobs that interest them for ones that pay well.

More in “Will the Ledbetter Act Help Women?” at http://malemattersusa.wordpress.com/2011/12/03/will-the-ledbetter-fair-pay-act-help-women/

The Biggest Myth About the Gender Wage Gap (30 May 2013)

A Comprehensive Look at Gender Equality: Taking On The Institute For Women’s Policy Research (16 February 2012) USA. A very comprehensive paper. Updated November 2016

Wage discrimination: The evidence (10 March 2010)

This last reference is also quite dated, and is not about feminist misrepresentation per se, but just shows how easily incorrect statistics can be created (in this case by Australian politician Joe Hockey) and then go into circulation:

FactCheck Q&A: do women under 50 make up just 2% of people on $100,000 a year? (22 August 2013) The correct answer is “around 24%”

Occupational Segregation and the Gender Wage Gap in Private- and Public-Sector Employment: A Distributional Analysis (11 November 2009) Australia

“Gender differences in employment across occupations advantage (rather than disadvantage) all women except those in high-paid jobs”

Gender pay gap: nonpecuniary benefits edition (17 August 2009) NZ

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See also my blog posts entitled:

We’ve all heard of the gender ‘income gap’, but what about the ‘expense gap’?

That tired old feminist chestnut that is the ‘gender wage gap’ resurrected in Australia

If feminists have a genuine case then what’s with all the distortion, hypocrisy, lies and exaggeration?

Both feminist literature and articles in the mainstream media (which is heavily biased towards the feminist perspective) make common use of various ‘facts’ to support their arguments. Some of these include:

That 1 in 4 women will be raped.
Women are paid 77% of what men are paid for equal work
1 in 3 women suffer from domestic violence
90% of the world’s poorest people are women
The conviction rate for rape is 6%

These are not facts. They are examples of what is a sustained effort to mislead the public, with the aim of building public (read: political) support for the feminist cause.

Some of the common ‘red flags’ in relation to pro-feminist statistics include:

  • lack of citation of the original source, with countless instances of incorrect and debunked statistics being used again and again
  • no context being provided for statistics used, and in particular the comparable figure for males is very rarely provided

See these related sources:

CPS chief is blasted for claiming the number of rape convictions is more than double the real figure (22 October 2017) UK

Female Inmates In California Are Fighting Life-Threatening Wildfires For $1 Per Hour (13 October 2017) And then read the related Reddit discussion thread

BBC admits its viral “women write better code” story was fake news (28 December 2016)

Feminist Labour MP whose tweet advocated punching Milo Yiannopoulos is lead figure behind proposed Social Media Malicious Communications Bill (19 November 2016)

Marie Claire magazine editor called out for hypocrisy after accusing others of sexism (18 May 2016) Related Reddit discussion thread here

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand removes “one in five” statistic from sexual assault resources website (22 December 2014)

“While most men don’t perpetrate violence, approximately 90% of all violence committed against children is perpetrated by men.” So states the ‘Polished Man‘ web site. A complete lie that they subsequently amended after adverse feedback. Here is the related reddit discussion thread.

Fear: The terrible feeling every woman experiences by Melissa Hoyer (6 November 2014) and Pray for Clementine (4 December 2014) Two similar articles by Australian feminist journalists concerning their sickening level of paranoia regarding men. In the second article Clementine Ford is freaking out because a stranger in the street, a man, tried to talk to her.

The Brilliant Ashe Schow: The meme that ‘one-in-five’ college women are raped was all the rage — until it proved indefensible, so now “statistics don’t matter” (24 December 2014)

False allegations are rare by Karen Straughan (22 November 2014)

Analysis of the media’s improper presentation of the recent MIT “Unwanted sexual behaviour” survey (30 October 2014) Reddit discussion thread and linked info

Essential feminist quotes: ‘Rapists serve all men by enforcing male supremacy’ (21 September 2014)

Mike Buchanan, a well-known British MRA, calling out feminists for their lies and misrepresentations (September 2014)

10 year old raped Afghan girl: An expose on the international corruption of feminism (24 August 2014)

Do not respect them (on demonising men) by Angry Harry

Five feminist myths that will not die (October 2014)

Washington Post (carefully) knocks 1 in 5 myth (12 August 2014) and No, 1 in  5 women have not been raped on college campuses (13 August 2014)

CDC study on sexual violence in the U.S. overstates the problem (27 January 2012)

How can men be discriminated against when almost all politicians are men?!

70% of people living in abject poverty are women

Another example of a misleading, incomplete representation of facts about an important women’s issue (28 May 2014)

Hey Amanda Marcotte, did you know “1 in 5” is really 1 in 5,446? (10 May 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/a-catalog-of-cruelty/

http://runluaurun.com/2014/01/31/the-super-bowl-will-kill-you/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_JkyWapMns (Response to statement by former Australian Prime Minister)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ncjGFIFPJI&feature=youtu.be (Concerning the 1 in 4 women raped myth)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPtiO8HG0MA (More about feminist research falsification)

http://genderfairness.com/

How feminists poison everything (Youtube video)

http://notboutthing.blogspot.com.au/2013/04/the-insidious-lies-of-feminism.html

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/feminist-code-speak/

http://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/the-ten-most-common-feminist-myths/

http://washingtonexaminer.com/unmasking-the-junk-science-behind-the-banbossy-campaign/article/2546128

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2014/03/27/lies-damned-lies-and-sex-work-statistics/

Mind which gap? The selective concern over statistical sex disparities

Victor Zen video on doctored statistics

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/236f0f/this_is_how_feminists_do_statistics_and_this_is/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-censorship/ban-bossy-and-other-feminist-fails/ (Be sure to read about the ‘woozle effect‘)

http://mensrightssydney.com/2014/06/02/domestic-violence-woozles-in-australia/

Danielle D’Entremont: Where is the feminist outrage? by Paul Elam (21 April 2014)

What happens when Jezebel lets a man take over? Brilliance, quite frankly!‘ by Janet Bloomfield (27 April 2014)

The feminist myth of the ‘Rule of Thumb’

Men’s rights and the septic tank of history (6 June 2014) Noisome bigoted article by pro-feminist but some interesting reading to be had amongst the readers comments

Misrepresentation of Gender Bias in the 1989 Report of the Gender Bias Committee of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, by Mark B Rosenthal (23 November 2005)

http://www.debunker.com/patriarchy.html

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Other related posts within this blog

Fudging the figures to support the feminist narrative
On sexual assault and unwanted sex
On the feminist myth of ‘rape culture’
On the issue of false allegations of sexual assault
The Cult of feminism
Domestic violence is not a gendered issue – So why the sexist bias against men?
How feminists misrepresent the gender ‘wage gap’
On the censorship of non-feminist perspectives and opinions

Nice guys, nice guys™ and the friendzone

For the time being this post will simply consist of a collection of links on the above topic – I’ll return later to add further order and reason …

Invisible Men – The Red Pill Interviews University Girls (5 September 2017) Australian video

We Need Fraternity Men to Do a Lot More Than ‘Walk a Mile in Her Shoes’ (4 June 2017) This theme, that even men sympathetic to feminism can’t do right, is often encountered. For example, scroll down this page to ‘Sydney Girls High’

On the friend zone, nice guys, and both almost always being a dude (22 April 2017) Reddit discussion thread

David Schwimmer’s sexual harassment films are good. But this is women’s work, by Van Badham (12 April 2017) Men’s job is to listen and obey – not talk or write.

When men claim to be feminists just to abuse women, by Jane Gilmore (15 March 2017) Australia

Men get no pats on the back for basic human decency (14 March 2017) Australia

Sydney Girls High School prefects hit back after Sydney Boys’ viral video (13 March 2017)

What nice men don’t say to nice women (13 April 2016) Video

Why women can’t complain about men (4 December 2016) Video

Beware these 10 types of feminist men (8 August 2016)

Why I’ll never date another male feminist, by Tiana Lowe (August 2016)

Feminism is an inferiority complex and white knights are enablers (11 August 2016)

Nice guys finish first: empathetic boys attract more close female friends (16 June 2016) Predictable offering from ‘The Conversation’

25 new ways to say ‘no’ to feminists (7 June 2016)

http://www.drglover.com/no-more-mr-nice-guy/the-book.html and https://7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf

On @MattMcGorry, @MeghanEMurphy and the ‘Male Feminist’ Problem (23 May 2016)

Forget alpha males. Betas are the men of the future (22 May 2016) Australia

What nice men don’t say to nice women (14 April 2016) Reddit discussion thread and linked video

Why I’m wary of men who call themselves feminists (14 March 2016)

Why women slag men off for ‘being rubbish’ – and what you should say in response (11 March 2016)

Milo: ‘Male Feminism Is a Sort of Disease’ (23 February 2016) Scroll down to see great comment by ‘David Power’

Pro Tip: Don’t Be a ‘Feminist Man’ (15 February 2016) Oww, the claws are out in this article by Robert Stacy McCain

Amazing read “The Alpha Widow”. Long read but worth it (6 November 2015) Reddit discussion thread

Women’s Greatest Problem: The Myth of the Submissive Alpha Male (25 June 2015)

Masculinity, Positive Masculinity, and the White Knight as a Perversion of Masculinity (9 May 2015)

Radicalising the romanceless (31 August 2014) ** Lots of choice examples of  feminist disdain and mockery of nice guys **

Why great husbands are being abandoned (13 August 2014) Huffington Post article and linked reddit discussion thread

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/02/22/relationshipstrategies/how-women-made-good-men-passe-and-sabotaged-their-own-futures/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_zone

The Friend Zone – Land of the “Nice Guys” (27 July 2014)

Study finds that men like nice women, but not the other way around (25 July 2014)

Yes girls, there is a FriendZone (9 June 2014) Video

Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore (22 April 2014) Phew, over 7,400 comments!

It Pisses Me Off When Men Call Themselves Feminists (8 August 2013)

http://theconversation.com/strut-your-stuff-how-rockstars-and-peacocks-attract-the-ladies-29045?: Article about the types of guys found attractive to women, and which includes the statement “studies suggest that higher levels of narcissism in men correlated with improved prospects in courting a woman.”

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/29z5zf/can_we_have_a_serious_discussion_about_nice_guys/

http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/83262651455/the-most-common-and-conspicuous-attribute-of-the

http://www.dailycal.org/2012/07/26/why-good-girls-like-bad-boys/

Okay, MGTOW, I get it now. If this is the option, I’d pass too‘ by Janet Bloomfield (22 April 2014) with a related discussion at reddit/mensrights here and follow-up post here

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/483318927.html

http://www.returnofkings.com/29989/men-should-not-help-sluts

The normalisation of the trashy single mother

http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/02/14/re-the-problem-with-nice-guys/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/22rxm9/of_course_if_it_was_mocking_desperate_women/

The More Chores A Husband Does, The More Likely The Marriage Will End In Divorce (28 September 2012)