On the sexualisation of children

Most of us are aware of, and concerned about, the extent to which children appear to be becoming sexualised at a younger and younger age. The contributing factors are primarily social/cultural, although physiological factors also play a role (for e.g. diet and environmental pollutants). What needs to be done, and who should be held responsible for taking whatever action is needed to address the situation?

With regards to social/cultural influences, a linkage has been established, for example, between the increasing prevalence of households in which the father is not present, and children becoming sexually active at an earlier age (Source).

Other social factors that may be relevant include the trend towards families having less children, parents delaying having children until they are older, and the increase in the proportion of families where both parents work.

Clearly we must also consider sexually predatory behaviour by some adults, together with the related issues of child sex tourism, child prostitution and trafficking. The latter is more common in developing countries, yet is nevertheless still present here in the first world. It is important to note that both men and women perpetrate and/or facilitate these crimes, and that their victims may be either male or female.

I am by no means an expert in this field, but some of the more significant influences would seem to be:

The example provided by parents, teachers, and carers, & the messages they convey regarding what constitutes appropriate values and age-appropriate behaviour

Parents make many decisions affecting children, for example, what clothes are bought/worn, what films are watched at the cinema, what magazines are purchased, etc. There have been stories in the media about parents who encourage (persuade?) their children to take place in beauty pageants or similar activities that many other would consider questionable.

Who is responsible? In order of significance … mothers, fathers (where one is present), other family members, and carers/teachers. Governments and the courts play a role through the social and welfare policies they put in place, particularly in relation to issues of custody and visitation.

See my post in relation to feminism-inspired programs in schools, as well as the following examples:

Bethenny Frankel blasted for posting bikini photos of 13-year-old daughter: ‘So inappropriate’ (30 December 2023) Scan the readers comments on Twitter, and see all the women protesting that the ‘influencer’ mum did nothing wrong. Imagine the alternative reaction if it was a dad who published the pics.

Pre-pubescent girl dancing for money (6 March 2023) Video

‘I would never pose with my daughter like Heidi Klum – it’s wrong’ (12 October 2022) OK, so the daughters aren’t children, but it’s still a bit ewww.

Mum shamed online for editing photo of 8-year-old daughter (24 August 2022)

School suggests ‘modesty shorts’ for girls, sparking fury among parents (news.com.au) (8 June 2021)

Boobs, cleavage edited from high school yearbook photos at Florida school (news.com.au) (24 May 2021)

LGBT community celebrates 8-year-old drag queen. Critics call it child abuse (9 June 2017)

Reality star Farrah Abraham accused of sexualising daughter, 7, in bikini photoshoot (27 June 2016)

Story about the promotion of dance costumes for young girls and related dance culture (26 April 2015)

Mother of ‘most beautiful girl’, 9, slams claims she sexed up daughter (7 December 2014). Feb 2016 update on Kristina and her mum here

Exposure to media images and stories, particularly for example in tween/teen and young womens magazines, that promote, glamourize and normalize sexually-charged behaviour and styles of clothing

Sophie Guidolin hits back at trolls over bikini snap with teen son (4 April 2022)

Preteen bada bing (14 September 2020)

GOP lawmakers call on justice department to take legal action against Netflix for sexualizing children (11 September 2020)

10-Year-Old Boy ‘Drag Kid’ Photographed With Naked Adult Drag Queen (11 January 2019)

‘Art of Safe Sexting’ video slammed by Victorian Education Minister (30 June 2018)

First she became a 13-year-old internet meme. Now, she’s treated like a porn star (23 March 2017)

Sexting: Should teens be left to their own devices? (8 October 2016) Australia

Children as young as 10 years old are sending sexually-explicit images to friends (26 September 2016)

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/cute-or-creepy-kristina-pimenova-may-be-six-but-shes-already-a-supermodel/story-fnixwvgh-1227135126748

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/porn-stars-describe-how-their-families-reacted-after-learning-about-their-careers/story-e6frfmq9-1226888926971

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/vanessa-knowles-pays-for-25k-law-degree-by-stripping-on-the-web/story-fnixwvgh-1226888337382

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/three-porn-stars-explain-why-they-chose-the-porn-industry/story-fnet0gt3-1226917259841

Sexualisation of children (13 February 2011)

Who is responsible? Editors and journalists of the relevant publications (these being primarily women), and parents who ostensibly control TV viewing habits and determine which magazines are purchased and brought home.

The availability and social acceptability of certain products, particularly clothing, that could be seen to facilitate the sexualisation of children

Department stores, for example, often assert that they stock products based on there being a consumer demand for them. Whilst many parents are against stores stocking provocative and age-inappropriate clothing, there is another group of people who are against restrictions or censure in relation to the public dissemination of questionable photos of children in general, and dressing girls in adult-style clothing in particular. Here’s an example of that line of thought here.

The members of that group see such photos, and such clothing, as “cute” and “harmless fun – just like playing dress-ups”. Their views seem to be akin to the criticism of so-called ‘victim-blamers’ as practiced by feminists. In other words, they feel that others who say that pre-teen girls should not be wearing skimpy/provocative clothing are ‘sick’ (or even accuse critics of being paedophiles themselves), and that girls of any age should be able to wear whatever they want without judgment or fear of repercussions on themselves or others.

Pole dancing for kids as young as 10 – addressed in articles in the Whitehorse Leader and the Herald-Sun but behind a paywall. See also Daily Mail article (25 October 2019)

Wife scolds husband for discouraging his 12-year-old daughter from buying sex toys (1 May 2019)

‘I’m sexy and I know it’ dress for tots disgusts parents (28 November 2017)

Pole dancing video sparks backlash on Facebook (12 July 2017)

House of Fraser forced to remove ‘provocative’ Calvin Klein advert after shoppers complain that it sexualises children (14 March 2017) UK

Child models in bikinis spark controversy at fashion show (19 July 2016) USA and Would you let your pre-teen daughter pose like THIS for a fashion brand? (Australia)

Best & Less accused of selling ‘sexualised’ children’s clothes (3 June 2016)

Mother objects to short shorts for young girls (10 February 2016) Video

Online retailer Missguided slammed for selling ‘offensive’ top (1 December 2015)

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/texas-dad-challenges-school-dress-code-labeling-sexist/story?id=30704598

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/mothers-outrage-at-unsuitable-girls-clothing-strikes-raw-nerve-20120814-246tw.html

Reader ‘Molly Black’ writes: “As for the sexualising of young girls—it isn’t paedophiles grooming them, it’s their own mothers dressing them like little tarts. I had lunch in the Kings Rd on Saturday and I couldn’t believe the way 11,12 and 13 years old girls were dressed , often with their mothers. ‘Mini-me-s’ and looking at older men too to check out if they were being given the once over.” (Source)

Who is responsible? Retail owners/managers, product manufacturers, and parents (primarily mothers)  who make clothing purchasing decisions

Exposure to poor role models in popular culture, e.g. actors, models, pop stars and social media ‘celebrities’

Who is responsible? The artists in question (again, who appear to be primarily female) and the companies responsible for creating/marketing their image

TikToker accused of grooming 13-year-old confirms her unborn baby isn’t his (23 February 2021)

See also ‘Baby-faced Instagram star posting sexy snaps‘ (16 January 2016) and ‘Thanks Iggy big butts are ‘in’ for teens’ (28 November 2014)

Exposure to pornography

It appears that the influence of pornography on early onset of sexual activity by specific individuals may have been overstated, although one would imagine that its effect as part of the broader social milieu is still likely to be significant. See http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/porn

The issue of pornography in general is addressed in this other blog post.

Who is responsible? The producers of pornography, the models/actors featured therein, and adults responsible for either facilitating or failing to exercise control over childrens access to porn.

Passive exposure to sexually-charged advertising on billboards, magazines in stores, and free-to-air TV

This is the ‘white noise’ of sexualised messages and imagery that we are all unwittingly exposed to as we go about our daily business.

Who is responsible? The media. Companies that advertise products. The advertising/marketing agencies (most of whose staff are female) who create the ads. To a lesser extent, bureaucrats within government agencies that make determinations as to whether ads are acceptable.

Diet and environmental factors affecting children

It has been established that the early onset of menstruation can be triggered by body weight reaching certain thresholds. Given an increasing number overweight children then it seems likely that this is an increasingly significant factor in early development, and in some cases the subsequent early onset of sexual activity. The presence of certain household chemicals is another possible contributing factor.

See:

Something is happening to our kids, and it’s time we talked about it (29 July 2017)
Poor kids hit puberty sooner and risk a lifetime of health problems (24 May 2017)
http://mums.bodyandsoul.com.au/kids+health/health/why+girls+are+maturing+early,12327
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/04/16/early-precocious-puberty.aspx
What causes girls to enter puberty early? (5 February 2015)

Who is responsible? In terms of economic disadvantage, primarily broader societal and economic forces. In terms of dietary choices and product purchasing decisions, primarily parents/children, but also food processing companies and supermarkets.

Conclusion

Clearly,  the increasingly early sexualisation of children is a significant social issue. Is it also a gender issue? It shouldn’t be, as both boys and girls are affected, and both men and women share responsibility for creating the environment in which this phenomenon is occurring.

At the same time though, I’m not seeing a lot of patriarchy at work here. It is largely women who create and purchase the magazines in which sexualised images of girls are portrayed, their pages filled with messages conveying the idea that dressing and behaving like a tramp is a desirable expression of excitement, independence and maturity. It is women who promote the acceptability and the alleged allure of the ‘cougar’. It is women who design, market and purchase provocative clothing lines aimed at tweens and young teens. It is female celebrities, actors and pop stars who twerk and nipple-slip their way across our TV and cinema screens.

All of this is presented, by a particular group of women (and the occasional mangina), as being some noble expression of ‘girl power’. See some graphic demonstrations of that perverse mentality, here, herehere, and here.

In an article entitled Sexualised girls are seen as less intelligent and less worthy of help than their peers‘ the bad guys are those people in the community who make certain value judgements concerning sexualised girls, rather than the adults who allowed them to become sexualised in the first place.

A petition I came across on change.org provides another such example of the whacky logic of liberal progressives. This was summed up in the title of a reddit discussion thread, “So, telling girls they shouldn’t dress sexually is sexualising women“. In other words it is the person who discusses or draws attention to the fact that a girl is dressed like a hooker, who has compromised judgement/morals … not the girl in question or her parents. How frighteningly short-sighted, shallow, and foolish.

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And now upon viewing the fruits of their self-indulgence, that same group resort to heaping of blame upon the male gender. A more mature and reasoned course of action would be to accept a degree of accountability and to direct their energies to turning things around. The problem though is that there is an obstacle preventing progress in that direction. And that blockage is gender feminism.

On the other hand, men hold the majority of elected positions in government and within the ranks of CEO’s and thus could institute reforms to more effectively address many of the factors noted above. A small minority of men (and women) also participate in child sex tourism and other pedophile activities.

If there was ever an issue for men and women to set aside ideology and work together to protect future generations, then this is one.

See these related sources:

Australian male feminist & academic Mike Salter discusses his ‘research’ (6 June 2021) Hint: Men are the baddies. Video

Cuties: Netflix indicted by US grand jury over controversial film (7 October 2020)

Tracey Spicer: Why do men think it’s OK to comment on my pre-teen daughter’s looks? (5 February 2017) Australia. Apparently it’s all men’s fault. Tracey doesn’t like men on planes either.

Stop the sexualisation of our children. Right now, by Kylie Lang (8 December 2016) Australia

You’re A “Bigot” If You Don’t Support Pedophilia (31 May 2016)

Children with sexualised behaviours need support, not silence and stigma (27 May 2016) Australia

Controversial sex-ed program will teach Aussie toddlers about cross-dressing (6 March 2016) Australia
“Children are sexual beings and it’s a strong part of their identity, and it is linked to their values and respect”

I see articles about young girls being “sexualised” all the time, but never about boys (1 December 2014) Reddit mensrights discussion thread
Feminism, consumerism & the sexualisation of girls
Don’t blame advertisers for the sexualisation of children

Tramps like us: Target and modern day misogyny (20 August 2012)
Study: Girls as young as six want to be sexy (17 July 2012)
Sexy clothing for young girls makes up 30 per cent of the market (10 May 2011)

Sexualisation in child beauty pageants (wiki entry)
http://www.theguardian.com/media/blog/2011/jun/06/sexualised-children-media-blame
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/37158.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/education-22002324
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2008009/Sexualisation-children-blamed-parents-want-bond-them.html
http://www.womensforumaustralia.org/significant-issues/premature-sexualisation-of-children
http://www.tai.org.au/documents/downloads/DP93.pdf
http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-who-is-to-blame-for-the-over-sexualisation-of-children-171919-Jul2011/
Twelve going on 20: Are girls reaching puberty earlier? (10 August 2011)

Girls showing their bits = empowerment? patriarchal exploitation? self-indulgence? other?

Let’s look at the issue of female nudity. I imagine that most readers would have observed the naked female form, both in real real life and by way of advertising material and pornography. Indeed, the nude or partially nude images of many thousands of women and girls can be encountered in various forms of media. Most of these images were provided with consent, and often on the basis of financial compensation.

Readers would also likely be familiar with activist groups such as FEMENPETA and Pussy Riot, who routinely employ nude or partially nude females ostensibly to advance their political agendas. We might then add various events/memes such as #FreeTheNipple and #Slutwalk.

The Wikipedia entry for ‘Feminist views of Pornography‘ states that “pornography has been one of the most divisive issues in feminism”, and provides a general introduction to the issue.

As to whether the sale and/or public display of female nudity is empowering or oppressive, the answer seems to be “it depends”. Obviously it depends on who you ask. It also depends on the gender of the person asking the question, being viewed or doing the viewing. It depends on what is going through the viewers mind. And so on. The universal exception is material at the far end of the spectrum, particularly images of minors or those obtained surreptitiously and/or without consent.

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Some feminists are on record as stating that women who make a living from selling nude photos of themselves and/or performing in pornographic films and/or working as prostitutes, are empowered. Many in this group identify themselves as ‘sex-positive feminists‘.

Many other feminists, however, argue that such behaviour is harmful to women, and that it promotes and/or facilitates violence against women. As a consequence many demand stricter censorship of pornography, whilst other feminists are both anti-pornography and anti-censorship.

(And yet even anti-pornography feminists manage to accommodate their proclivities via strategies such as creating a distinction between ‘pornography’ and female-friendly ‘erotica’.)

Many of these feminists have suggested that women involved in the sex industry do so as a result of earlier emotional damage inflicted by way, for example, of child abuse combined with economic and educational disadvantage.

The only area where the disparate tribes of feminism come close to speaking with one voice is when it comes to condemning men who view pornography or purchase sexual services from women. Such men are portrayed as misogynists partaking in a form of patriarchal oppression, or even violence against women.

As a consequence feminists in various jurisdictions have lobbied for changes to laws that would see the selling of sexual services by women decriminalised, whilst making the purchasing of sexual services by men a crime. But again, even with this issue there are some differences in feminist opinion.

Feminists tend to remain silent on this issue of women purchasing sexual services. Quelle surprise.

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See also:

Dress Codes: How high is too high? The evolution of the women’s running brief (3 August 2024)

Woman holds up supermarket checkout line for ‘infuriating’ reason (11 June 2024) Australia

Wild reason content creator flashed portal revealed (19 May 2024)

Stars’ wildest Met Gala afterparty looks (8 May 2024) Just after the boys at Yarra Valley Grammar School were vilified for a webpage that objectified girls, here are some young women doing it for themselves.

‘Inappropriate’: Playboy Model shamed over Disney park outfit (2 April 2024) “I wear what makes me feel good and confident. I’m not here to please everyone. If they don’t like it, that’s their problem”

Sydney woman divides after revealing shock at male attention (5 October 2023)

Unwritten rules of wearing swimwear in public revealed (20 September 2023)

Sad reason women are wearing a baggy T-shirt on public transport (24 May 2023)

‘I was kicked out of a supermarket over my shorts’ (27 April 2023) Narcissistic fool

Woman claims she was asked to ‘cover up’ at Queensland hotel (7 February 2023) An “Only-Fans star“? Oh, ok

Horse racing ditches ‘offensive’ dress code in dramatic change (3 February 2023)

Woman reveals unique Aussie reaction to her ‘giant boobs’ (17 January 2023)

US fitness influencer sparks outrage with ‘revealing’ gym outfit (30 November 2022)

Woman claims she was kicked out of restaurant over low-cut top (4 November 2022)

“Polska, who regularly posts videos of herself wearing low-cut dresses for her army of fans, explained: “My friend Tootatis and I were prevented from entering this restaurant because of our cleavage.””  -> Air-head

Twitter discussion regarding self-objectification by women/girls (23 September 2022)

Meet the Gen Zers who insist on wearing sexy outfits to the office (20 September 2022) #RespectWomen. In their dreams. Absurd self-indulgence

US teacher’s ‘inappropriate’ outfits and ‘booty pics’ slammed (28 August 2022)

Woman claims venue forced her to cover up because of body size (1 August 2022) Ewww, and another one of these embarrassingly vulgar, shallow & stupid articles 

Man busted looking at photo of woman’s bum in a pub (22 July 2022) Absurd

Woman kicked off jury duty over outfit doesn’t see what’s wrong (8 July 2022) UK

Disney World guest asked to leave park or buy shirt to match dress code (28 May 2022)

Topless vegan activist slams ‘sexist’ cop request during Perth protest (24 May 2022) They just have to get naked, now don’t they?

TikToker reveals why she chooses to go braless (18 May 2022) See entry below – well it’s same thing here – see this narcissist on Instagram

Woman with naturally big boobs details H-cup horrors (16 May 2022) Go ahead, gender swap this story and see how it reads. And yes, she’s on OnlyFans. More pathetic hypocrisy and questionable leadership from pro-feminist news.com.au

Woman reveals ‘annoying’ issue with having ‘naturally big boobs’ (13 May 2022)

Nadia Bokody: Lie men tell about ‘kinky’ sex (24 April 2022) Blame it on men – again. And yet surveys show that it’s mainly women searching online for violent sex.

Influencer slams ‘jealous women’ for posting ‘hate comments’ (11 March 2022)

Woman claims theme park told to cover up ‘big breasts’ in crop top (2 February 2022)

Playboy model Elizabeth Marie Chevalier ‘too beautiful’ for love (19 January 2022)

Aussie fitness influencer speaks out over backlash to supermarket outfit (11 January 2022)

Bunnings shopper’s wild bikini stunt goes viral on TikTok (5 January 2022)

Outfits that got people thrown off flights | escape.com.au (13 July 2021)

TikTok user shares ‘underboob’ free $97 T-shirt hack at Disneyland (news.com.au) (15 June 2021)

Mum with autism claims she was ‘body shamed’ by Six Flags officer (news.com.au) (11 May 2021) with more details regarding her offensive behaviour here

Why Do Men Watch Porn? – Woke Father (25 April 2021)

Backpacker asked to leave Bondi restaurant over ‘not acceptable’ outfit (25 December 2020) Australia

Clothes banned on flights: Raunchiest eyebrow-raising outfits from 2020 (7 November 2020)

Sydney apartment’s ‘humiliating’ bikini rule bans ‘G-strings’ from pool (7 October 2020) NewsComAu’s plaintive/outraged ‘why can’t I show my bits’ story for today. Or this morning? Or this hour?

Woman forced to leave gym for wearing sports bra that flashed waist (22 September 2020) That poor woman – her boobies can’t breath!

No ‘Hot Pants’: Sexist rules for women on Artic expedition (8 September 2020)

Outrage as news reporter slammed for showing ‘too much cleavage’ (11 September 2020)

Paris Musee d’Orsay sorry for barring visitor in low-cut dress (10 September 2020)

Melbourne woman has spent $135k on plastic surgery – including five boob jobs (2 September 2020)

Naked protester flashes Portland police during BLM protests (22 July 2020)

Mum, daughter forced out of supermarket for ‘inappropriate’ crop tops (16 June 2020) UK. I am sick to death of oft-repeated media items like this one. Wear what you like on the beach, but if you can’t bring yourself to cover your pallid flesh in other public places then use the home delivery services provided by most supermarkets.

Why Renee Gracie turned to porn career after history making V8 Supercars run (5 June 2020) Today’s contribution from pro-feminist news.com.au, shaping & guiding the dreams of adolescent girls everywhere.

Former golfer Paige Spiranac slams the sport’s ‘hypocrisy’ (9 March 2020) And like, we really need to see her bits #FacePalm

Three Instagram models banned after ‘exposing’ themselves during game (29 October 2019) USA

Of course leggings are sexually arousing. Duh (2 April 2019)

Woman known as ‘The Bikini Hiker’ for scaling mountains in her swimwear freezes to death in Taiwan national park after falling down a ravine during a climb (22 January 2019)

‘Why I’ll show off my breasts if I want’ (19 November 2018)

Louvre refused entry to Aussie insta star Newsha Syeah because of revealing dress (10 November 2018)

Stick-on swimwear is summer’s hottest new trend as models storm Miami catwalk in Duct-tape bikinis (16 July 2018)

Saleswoman is paraded around her office NAKED while her colleagues cheer in sickening ‘morale-boosting stunt’ organised by her boss (2 November 2017)

“The situation she is in is undoubtedly traumatising. This is just like with rape”. Except there is nothing to indicate she was coerced into the performance, and of course there is no way she actually got off on it is there? Because … feminism + prudishness

Bettina Arndt on the Politics of Cleavage (19 September 2017) Video

Australian Academics Attack Campaign for More Female Exercise Because of “The Male Gaze” (13 August 2017) A Mark Latham video. Australian feminist academics take issue with women’s fitness awareness campaign. Don’t exercise because men might look at you.

Women’s own level of physical attractiveness regulates the fashion recommendations they would give to other women (29 July 2017)

No, the internet is not actually stealing kids’ innocence (25 July 2017) Religiously avoids mention of any factors dear to the feminist hive-mind. Mentions causality/correlation issue – lol – never mentioned by feminist researchers looking at, for eg. gender quotas in business, wage gap, etc.

“In terms of identifying causes, we should ask why the finger of blame is always pointed at the media rather than other likely causes (including violence against women, or problems linked to growing inequality or precarity)”

Gina Liano in awkward interview with The Project hosts after slamming study on cleavage (11 July 2017)

Google Researcher: Porn Featuring Violence Against Women Is More Popular Among Women Than Men (5 July 2017)

“The world doesn’t revolve around men’s feelings” (12 June 2017) Reddit discussion thread

Porn ISN’T to blame for a man’s inability to perform in the bedroom – it’s a lack of sexual satisfaction (9 June 2017)

Explainer: The rise of naked tourism (29 May 2017)

Bizarre new ‘fashion’ trend where women are wearing nothing but duct tape (16 May 2017)

This woman wants you to look at her breasts (17 April 2017)

“New Yorker Molly Borman said her stick-on pasties accentuate the appearance of nipples while also empowering women”

Hotelier says skimpy ban would hit hard (22 March 2017) Australia

Feminists are confusing nudity with liberation (11 March 2017)

Emma Watson on Vanity Fair cover: ‘Feminism is about giving women choice’ (6 March 2017)

Harvesting the male gaze, by Peter Wright (17 February 2017) Recommended reading

Opinion: Posting your nipples online doesn’t make you more of a feminist (23 January 2017) Australia

Lady Part Costumes Ruled the Women’s March (23 January 2017) USA

Hold pornography to account – not education programs – for children’s harmful sexual behaviour (7 December 2016) Unconvincing effort to equate porn viewing with aggressive sexual behaviour by children/youth.

3 Studies Refute Idea that Exposure to Sexy Centerfolds Harms Men’s Relationships (30 November 2016)

Why women need to stop stripping off to make a point” (27 November 2016)

Stop calling this ’empowerment’. It’s not (2 November 2016) Australia

‘Likes and follows’ the currency of the female-dominated selfie world, study finds (7 October 2016)

Gonzo: we need to talk about young men and porn (23 September 2016) Maddening gender bias in this article in pro-feminist discussion forum The Conversation. They admit the relationship between viewing pornography and violence against women is hotly disputed and call for a nuanced approach, which suggests some degree of objectivity on the issue. But all the while the author happily ignores the issue of girls viewing pornography, and the possible effects of that on both males and females.

Emily Ratajkowski flashes her breasts … again (14 September 2016)

Topless protesters bare breasts in push for women’s rights (29 August 2016)

Buzzfeed Reporter Goes To Nude Beach, Gets Offended That Men Look At Her (1 August 2016)

Times Square Tourists Left Bloodied Over $1 Tip to Topless Performer (20 July 2016) USA

All the Times Emily Ratajkowski Fought the Patriarchy (12 July 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

Why I organized a ‘no bra day’ at my high school (17 June 2016) USA, with related Reddit discussion thread here

When it comes to what to wear on a plane, anything goes, but undies masquerading as pants? Nup. (1 June 2016)

Female Danish Athletes Diminish Their Own Championship Victory By Taking Nude Photos (26 May 2016)

Feminists Against Heterosexuality (@CarolineHeldman Edition) (14 May 2016)

10 revealing facts about the porn habits of women (13 May 2016)

Calvin Klein blasted online over ‘trashy and repulsive’ upskirt Instagram advert (11 May 2016) The TV panelist on ‘Sunrise’ described this pic as “schoolboy-ish”, although the people who devised and agreed upon the campaign were more likely 30-something women

Pornographic Progress, Sexbots and the Salvation of Man (7 April 2016)

Vietnam’s bikini airlines set to create country’s first female billionaire (2 April 2016)

What economic lessons about medical costs can we learn from the market for cosmetic procedures? (12 March 2016) USA

“There is a huge gender imbalance for cosmetic procedures – women accounted for 90.5% of the 11.5 million cosmetic procedures last year”

Turns out, watching porn is good for gender equality (4 March 2016)

Near-nude model gatecrashes BRITs telecast (25 February 2016) UK

Men Classify Women. Women Objectify Themselves (3 February 2016)

These two women hate (& dox) men who send them explicit photos, whilst they themselves flood social media with salacious selfies (31 January 2016)

Controversial crowd-funding site My Free Implants trials other types of surgery online (18 January 2016)

Brisbane ‘free the nipple’ picnic sparks wider debate about equality (16 January 2016) Australia

Going bareback! Imogen Anthony rides a horse completely naked with another nude female model in an effort to spread the message of equality (7 January 2016)

Ayesha Curry Has Hoes All Over the World Crying Their Eyes Out (6 December 2015) USA

SocJus College claims male gratification is wickedness & sin (18 September 2015)

Feminists ‘are more likely to watch porn’ (15 September 2015)

Who is objectifying Laci Green? (4 February 2014) Video about the concept of objectification

Lads’ mags, sexual violence and the need for feminist intervention (4 June 2015) Australia

This is why women are taking selfies of bottles of Coke held between their breasts (2 June 2015)

Netflix documentary ‘Hot Girls Wanted’ exposes behind the scenes look at amateur porn industry (2 June 2015)

Lesbian go-go dancing: subverting the gaze one sexy step at a time (22 April 2015) Dancing before men=objectifying but dancing before (gay) women=empowering

#FreeTheNipple: liberation or titillation? (7 April 2015)

Why are feminists ignoring the violent gang rape of porn star Cytherea (23 February 2015)

Former student charged for pornographic video filmed in library at Oregon State University (30 January 2015)

It’s time to stop blaming women for having breasts (16 January 2015)

Opinion: Why Caitlin Stasey’s new website misses the mark (14 January 2015)

FEMEN activist disrupts Vatican Christmas celebration (25 December 2014)

Shock study: Marriage rate declines with porn use, threatening economy, society (16 December 2014)

Porn and domestic violence: NSW Police says respect for women from young men crucial (7 December 2014)

How did 50 years of feminism end in THIS? Asks Sarah Vine (4 December 2014)

Skimpies tell of working behind bars in outback Australia in new documentary (17 November 2014)

Topless feminists target ‘political’ Pope (14 November 2014)

Porn: Why women want what men have (6 November 2014)

Women prefer gay porn to ‘female friendly’ straight porn says survey (1 October 2014)

Letter to ‘Object’ regarding rape allegations (1 October 2014)

Mythbusters TV show looked at belief that people give waitresses with bigger breasts bigger tips (4 September 2014). Well they do, but the differential is greatest for women customers (Video)

The great naked celebrity naked photo leak (1 September 2014) And of course men are 100% to blame

Sofia the sexist and Beyonce the feminist? (26 August 2014) and Feminism breaks the bounds with Beyonce (30 August 2014)

‘Dating Naked’ contestant sues series for showing her dating whilst naked (22 August 2014)

Free the nipple (December 2013) Video

Gender hypocrisy in porn debate (25 September 2013) This article has interesting things to say about the real source of concern regarding men’s access to pornography, which differs from their publicly stated concerns. The same article was reproduced in the AVfM web site with readers comments (some quite funny)

Women just as easily hooked on online porn (6 August 2014)

Is male nudity in the mainstream media becoming more acceptable than female nudity due to feminist backlash? (Example of womens rowing team making/selling nude calendar)

http://www.independent.ie/style/beauty/body/spotlight-on-free-the-nipple-30434543.html

UK Government to get serious about online ‘revenge porn’ (but no mention of protection for men)

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/annalynne-mccord-wants-to-end-stigmas-linked-to-women-who-drink-dress-sexy-and-are-raped/story-fn907478-1226961829514

Teen girl Lindsey Stocker takes on Beaconsfield High School over ‘short shorts’ (1 June 2014)

Why female nudity isn’t obscene, but is threatening to a sexist status quo‘ (22 April 2014)

From the mouths of (hot) babes by B.R Merrick (20 April 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/government-tyranny/european-union-to-ban-pornography-then-men/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/dworkin-got-it-wrong-naomi-wolf-got-it-wronger/

http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/what-if-the-u-s-government-spent-nearly-1000000-bucks-to-promote-and-study-porn/

Honey Badger Radio show on porn (Youtube)

http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/porn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E74-8A4f0k&index=4&list=PLA70081D259987DCD (Advance to the 8:30m mark)

http://judgybitch.com/2013/09/27/breakup-with-your-girlfriend-and-post-nude-selfies-to-a-revenge-porn-site-you-should-be-in-jail-go-on-two-dates-with-a-guy-get-dumped-then-send-sceencaps-of-sexts-to-his-boss-and-youre/

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/environmental-activist-ana-paula-maciel-strips-naked-for-playboy/story-fnixwvgh-1226881429988

Naked protest: Memories of bodies and resistance at the World Social Forum, Journal of International Women’s Studies, The Female as Weapon, and let’s not forget the Nude Protest for International Womens Day. And what about poor old Mr Putin?

Angry Father Tells Off Lady On A Train To Sit Down! (24 February 2012) Canada. YouTube video

I use my sex appeal to get ahead at work… and so does ANY woman with any sense (25 August 2011)

Why Are So Many Women Searching for Ultra-Violent Porn? (vice.com) (undated)

Children and youths – Selfies and sexting

‘Art of Safe Sexting’ video slammed by Victorian Education Minister (30 June 2018)

Generation sext: Queensland Girls forced to share nude selfies (10 October 2016) So boys choose to make poor decisions, but girls are “forced” to do so. Oh please! This is gender equality?

Children as young as 10 years old are sending sexually-explicit images to friends (26 September 2016)

Case of N.S. teens accused of sharing intimate images important: prosecutor (17 August 2016)

Children accessing porn: Schools battle to deal with consequences (22 July 2016) Australia. Typical of media coverage of this issue, this article alternates between use the terms “children” and “boys” to suit the narrative. It ignores the involvement of girls except as victims of boys, and the affect that their exposure/involvement has on their attitudes/relationships with others.

Eight high schools boys suspended for receiving pictures of female classmates nude, girls “verbally reprimanded but not suspended” (27 April 2015) Reddit mensrights discussion thread an linked article

Defence in hockey sex video case says 15-year-old girl should be prosecuted (12 February 2015)

More girls than boys are involved in both creating/distributing and receiving ‘sexts’

http://judgybitch.com/2013/09/12/the-slutty-selfies-mom-is-right-sexually-aggressive-teenage-girls-posting-provocative-pictures-on-boys-social-media-feeds-need-to-be-shut-down-before-those-girls-make-a-mistake-and-blame-it/

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/police-have-a-warrant-to-see-teenagers-erection-in-sexting-c

Topless swimming and sunbathing & naturism

One relatively recent phenomenon that I find curious is the declining popularity of going topless at the beach. This article about young women in France suggests that the trend is the result of a return to conservative and family values. The situation in Canada (BC) is discussed hereThis article and this article suggest that women are now shunning topless bathing as a result of the availability of digital cameras, but this article says its because women are uncomfortable with men ogling them.  I disagree with these explanations.

Alternatively, this article and this article blame the lessening popularity of topless bathing on womens insecurity regarding their bodies. Some cynics have even suggested that women are avoiding going topless as by doing so they ‘devalue the currency‘ (reduce their ability to use sexual leverage against men).

Feminists, in theory at least,  should support toplessness with regards to their stated aim of gender equality. With the exception of Sweden they have, however, been generally subdued on the issue.

See also:

http://youngnaturistsamerica.com/almost-naked-women-nudism-and-antisocial-nudists/

http://travasuns.org/Travasuns/Observations/Entries/2010/9/27_Naturism_is_especially_consistent_with_feminism_and_the_struggle_for_womens_freedom..html

Conclusion

Sorry, but after reading the often contradictory messages in the above papers … well to the average guy like me the issue seems like a moveable feast of hypocrisy and nonsense. And when it comes to pro-feminist groups using nudity to get publicity advance their philosophical position, I’d go so far as to say it’s even a little infantile. As and when my BS meter stops buzzing so loudly I’ll revisit this post and endeavour to add more thoughtful comment and analysis.

Postscript: Hey, check out this paradigm-shifting new women’s beauty product. Wow!

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Issues that arise when women travel

The biggest issue that arises when people travel is safety. This encompasses many topics such as sexual assault, robbery and scams, motor vehicle accidents, food poisoning, STD’s, animal bites, etc. Within the mainstream and online media most attention focuses on threats to the personal safety of women. It’s as if males are immune from muggings, drink spiking, motor vehicle accidents, etc … or are deemed  to be incapable of benefiting from advice.

Nevertheless, out in the real world, males are just as vulnerable to these threats as are females, if not more so. No one questions that women are deserving of support and advice in relation to the issue of traveler safety. But it would appear that men being men, well you know, they should just suck it up. Or something.

I read a post in a feminist blog that informed me that men don’t need this sort of advice because men “can look after themselves“. Well to the extent that men *can* look after themselves whilst travelling, they do so chiefly by following the same sort of advice that they offer to women (and then get called victim-blamers!). Funny thing that.

Aside from feminist bias I can’t think of a logical reason why journalists persist in compartmentalising their coverage of this issue along gender lines … that is unless the goal is simply to perpetuate a myth of eternal victimhood.

And so it is that much of the online discussion of traveller safety is devoted to women railing against the injustice of being unable to dress like a hooker – according to local mores – without being approached with offers of work.  Oh, wait, perhaps the patriarchy made them do it? Just what is the big deal about briefly modifying one’s normal fashion style? Those people promulgating this crazy notion of polite compromise as being akin to outright capitulation, have a lot to answer for. (Refer to these posts for more on this issue: Post 1 & Post 2 & Post 3).

Guys, on the other hand, seem to be able to enjoy their holidays just fine without the need to show off their butt cheeks whilst shopping in the market.

No, no-one deserves to be harassed or raped. And in an ideal world we could wear whatever we chose, and go where-ever we wanted at any time of the day or night, without attracting judgement or a violent response. 

But it’s not an ideal world, and it is foolish to ignore patterns of behaviour correlated to higher levels of threat, in favour of feel-good public rituals and esoteric babbling about the need to “educate” men and boys. Sounds a lot like comfortable insulated upper middle-class delusion to me. The criminal underbelly of society, along with the mentally ill, naughty boys (and girls!) one and all … they just need a good talking to, and a couple of polished Powerpoint presentations should straighten them out.

Christian schools have been teaching the ‘do not steal’ lesson for a couple of thousand years now, and we still seem to have a problem with theft. I am not saying that there is no place for education, but I sure wouldn’t be relying on it as the biggest stick in my armoury.

Oh, but heaven help any man who attempts to join the discussion and suggest tips like “don’t get drunk or take drugs”, “dress conservatively” or “don’t walk alone at night”, for they are immediately labelled victim-blamers and rape-apologists!

This theme, that the behaviour of women never causes nor contributes to the problems they encounter or anything bad that happens to them, is a feminist mainstay. And dare you suggest otherwise then you are the bad guy, even if you really don’t think you are … because your mind has been corrupted by “cognitive bias’ and ‘systemic sexism’. Move over Scientology!

An example of a recent article about traveller safety that demonstrates this narrow fem-focus can be seen at http://www.chiangmainews.com/ecmn/viewfa.php?id=3795

An alternative position is provided by this article – http://matadornetwork.com/change/travel-safety-is-not-a-gendered-issue/

Did you know that some airlines still have a policy of not seating unaccompanied minors next to men? I guess that haven’t read my post about female kiddy-fiddlers.

Airline discrimination table
http://mensrightsmelbourne.com/2014/03/24/sydney-fireman-john-mcgirr-accuses-virgin-of-discrimination/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_sex_discrimination_policy_controversy

And so in April 2014 a Australian feminist journalist by the name of Tracey Spicer wrote an article about how she didn’t want her children sat next to men on flights – see the article and related discussions here and here. This article in a feminist web site contributes nothing to the debate but there are some interesting points buried amongst the readers comments.

Yet despite the fact that men on planes are a cause for concern, on account of them probably being perverts, these men stepped in to help the flight attendants when help was needed.

Oh, but I love this article, it contrasts feminists silence about men being required to sit away from unaccompanied children, with the requests of ultra-orthodox Jewish men to be sat away from women.

On a positive note, in July 2014 an article by Amanda Blair entitled ‘We’ve become too paranoid about men in the company of children‘ highlighted the way many people assumed the worst when men were observed in proximity to children in playgrounds, shopping centres, etc. This UK newspaper article addresses the same issue, as does this item.

This blog post discusses an article by Wendy Tuohy on the same topic, but which in this case drips with hypocrisy bearing in mind the pronounced feminist bias of her prior repertoire of articles and offerings on social media.

This family-oriented tourist attraction in England has taken the step of banning unaccompanied adults from entering, though I suspect that unaccompanied women would not encounter a problem.

 See also:

Airline allows women to choose seat away from men in world first (22 July 2024) No similar option planned for male passengers. Yet again, #GenderEqualityWhenItSuits

‘Absolute disgrace’: Locals furious at tourist’s lewd act with statue in Florence, Italy (18 July 2024)

Shocking moment furious female passenger struts naked through airport security in protest over fee (13 June 2024)

Woman forces whole plane to get removed after refusing to comply with exit row instructions (21 May 2024)

Woman loses it as she’s dragged off Spirit Airlines flight (5 April 2024)

Jetstar passenger who filmed unruly passenger on board flight speaks about horrific ordeal (19 March 2024) Australia

Woman asked to leave plane after boarding without wearing a bra (6 February 2024) USA

Woman refuses to stop singing on Delta flight (13 November 2023) USA

Woman arrested after running onto tarmac and under plane at Canberra Airport (2 November 2023)

Woman told to ‘cover up’ top on plane (1 November 2023) Australia

Influencer’s mid-flight meltdown: ‘I’m Instagram famous, you f**king bum!’ (19 September 2023) USA

TV star shamed for ‘inappropriate’ plane outfit (8 September 2023) So even *stars* need to be taught how to get dressed? #FacePalm

Passenger on 12-hour flight refuses to let woman recline her seat (15 August 2023)

Woman banned from boarding flight over racy outfit (10 August 2023)

Woman banned from United Airlines after wine uproar forced landing (2 August 2023) USA

Unhinged passenger chases flight attendant home from airport (28 July 2023)

Moment woman URINATES on floor of Spirit Airlines jet after complaining staff had prevented her from using bathroom (21 July 2023)

Woman has epic meltdown over ‘not real’ passenger on American Airlines flight (5 July 2023) See also follow-up article from 14 August 2023

Teenage schoolgirls and passenger fight on Sydney train (18 May 2023)

Shock as pregnant passenger beats up airline manager (4 May 2023) USA

Passengers arrested after wild mid-air brawl (25 April 2023) Now if this story involved 3 or 4 guys causing mayhem then I bet the journalist would have given us a gender rundown within the first paragraph (if not in the headline).

Woman zip tied mid-flight after threatening to kill flight attendant (12 April 2023)

Woman filmed doing a bizarre act on a Sydney train (6 March 2023)

Plane passenger ‘tried to storm cockpit for a drink’ (25 February 2023)

Elderly woman accused of biting flight attendant’s arm during Gold Coast trip (13 February 2023)

Tourist bites woman’s finger off over beach beanbag (2 February 2023)

US sports star Sha’Carri Richardson kicked off American Airlines flight (22 January 2023)

Woman cheered off Jetstar flight for allegedly being disorderly (11 January 2023) with subsequent coverage here (no conviction recorded)

Former US politician Chris Christie’s niece accused of biting, injuring cops during violent plane meltdown (5 December 2022)

Woman’s wild excuse after biting passenger in mid-air plane rampage (1 December 2022)

United flight attendant taken to hospital following incident with ‘disruptive customer’ (14 November 2022)

Woman unleashes on plane, throws bottle at passenger (14 October 2022)

Elderly woman escorted off plane after allegedly slapping steward (26 August 2022)

I flew business class, but what I found was zero class (16 August 2022)

Angry man watches passenger turn seat into a bed during flight (30 June 2022)

‘I was kicked off a flight because of my 10kg boobs,’ model claims (2 June 2022) Who dehumanised who, here?

ABC Illawarra host Nick Rheinberger victim of ‘shocking’ road-rage incident (30 May 2022) “Her car came screaming up and parked directly in front of my car and she got out and just started abusing me,” he said.”

Woman claims airline told her to ‘cover up’ exposed chest on plane (21 May 2022)

OnlyFans model’s gross flight G-string act divides the internet (19 May 2022)

Love Island star Amelia Marni says she was asking to ‘cover up’ on Jetstar flight (16 May 2022)

I wasn’t allowed on a plane because of my X-rated pants (28 April 2022)

US woman allegedly opens emergency exit, flees aeroplane down inflatable slide (21 April 2022)

Lizzo wears outrageous butt-baring outfit on plane (12 April 2022) Grotesque

Woman who ‘slapped passengers’ on Jet2 flight banned for life and fined £5,000 (24 March 2022)

Is this the rudest passenger ever? (23 January 2022)

Miss Universe model Olivia Culpo told to ‘cover up’ before boarding plane (17 January 2022) Virtually identical articles as per this one seem to appear a couple of times a week now … they are beyond tedious. It’s time that narcissists (and their media enablers) put on their ‘big-girl’ pants.

Passenger claims woman breastfed cat on-board flight (25 November 2021)

Bizarre moment woman walks through Miami airport in a bikini and Covid face mask | Daily Mail Online (4 September 2021)

Woman lights cigarette on Spirit Airlines flight, stunning passengers | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site (27 August 2021)

Mum and daughter kicked off Southwest flight for demanding passengers’ seats (news.com.au) (11 August 2021)

Eight outfits that got people thrown off flights (13 July 2021)

Woman attacks passenger, unleashes on Ryanair flight from Ibiza (news.com.au) (1 June 2021)

Woman Accused of Punching Flight Attendant, Yelling at Another for Not Picking Up Her Garbage (msn.com) (4 May 2021)

Female passenger hits & abuses male partner (31 March 2021) USA (Video)

American Airlines passengers brawl over who gets to leave plane first (25 March 2021) USA

Jetstar rules: Model Isabelle Eleanore told to cover up on flight (news.com.au) (3 February 2021) Articles like this *frequently* appear in the MSM. This is news?

US airline passenger charged with punching woman whose kids kicked her seat (8 January 2021)

Woman in only underwear and T-shirt forces plane to divert (11 November 2020)

US mum forced to cover chest with flight attendant’s jumper (4 November 2020) Articles just like this one now appear almost daily (another example). Eye Roll. It’s just so unfair that women can’t wear trampy outfits on planes. (See also this blog post)

Woman punches flight attendant for not wearing mask correctly (21 October 2020) USA

Woman’s epic freak out on flight compared to The Exorcist (29 September 2020)

Girl’s hair set on fire in random attack on Adelaide bus (1 September 2020)

NFL player sues United Airlines, alleges woman sexually assaulted him on flight (21 May 2020)

Two ‘dirty’ female plane passengers leave social media grossed out (9 March 2020). Not so much a safety issue as one of empathy and respect for others around them.

Mum and daughter face court for allegedly attacking pilot in cockpit (4 March 2020) UK

Mother, 38, is spared jail for trying to commit sex act on male passenger on TUI flight after ditching her daughter, 7 (4 February 2020)

Drunk flight attendant busted after passing out for entire trip (10 August 2019)

Kind stranger comforts scared 96-year-old on flight (9 August 2019)

Woman smashes man with laptop during violent argument on aeroplane: ‘Just take her off the plane!’ (24 July 2019) USA

Drunk flyer kicked off plane, arrested for disgusting act (18 February 2019)

Women-only plane seating needed to combat sexual assault and midair ‘manspread’ (7 December 2018)

Air India starts selling seats in female-only section (17 January 2017)

Angry woman slaps airport worker in London after missing her budget flight with Ryanair (13 January 2017) UK

Businessman tests airline on gender discrimination by saying he can’t sit near men (25 October 2016)

Women-only train carriages? What a ridiculously regressive idea (4 May 2016) Australia. Pro-feminist article attracting more that 1,200 comments

City of Perth trials pink ‘female-friendly’ safe bays with better security (13 April 2016) Australia

Women-only ‘pink carriages’ idea for Aussie trains causes controversy (5 April 2016) and ‘Pink carriages’ for women only draws fire from feminists and commuters

Travel advice: Five places that women shouldn’t travel to (3 December 2014) The focus of this article appears to be mainly ideological dangers. In such places one might catch sexism from a seat in a bus.

Eva J Marie

Don’t talk to me! No wait. Talk to me!

Those of you who have spent time in Asian countries might have noticed a lot of western women reading books in cafes and looking somewhat bored. In various web sites and discussion forums one may read their plaintive cries about feeling “invisible” (e.g. Japan/China) and having trouble finding guys who will give them the level of attention they feel is warranted.

It would appear that most western guys in Thailand, for example, have little time for western women. Instead they appear to prefer the company of more feminine, laidback (and yes, often more attractive) Thai ladies. And cynics note that I am referring to Thai ladies in general, and not simply bar-girls.

I even read a post the other day where a female expat stated that she was tired of western men in Thailand “disrespecting” western women in the way they pointedly ignore them. Tragic, just tragic.

In my blog post ‘I thought women were meant to be more empathetic‘ I talk about the issue of western women in Thailand flaunting local dress standards. Is this ‘look at me! look at me!’ behaviour in response to the ‘attention deficit mode’ that many western women appear to descend into within days of arrival in Asia? Or is it simply a reflection of a broader attitude of ‘my need to indulge myself trumps your right to have local social mores respected’?

Moving across to India, read about ‘The woman who says that it’s not only men who like to look‘ (24 August 2016)

Why don’t Western men in Asian countries lift their game and jump at the opportunity of approaching western women? Oh wait, they have already tried that back home and were rewarded with looks of disdain or contempt – or even accused of harassment. I can see this is going to be a tough sell.

So what then, you might ask, is the current situation in western countries such as USA, Canada, the UK, and Australia?

Well in the West men are confused, for they are routinely dragged over the coals for alternately either paying too much attention to women, or not enough. Or about the right amount but they are doing it wrong. Oh, and the goalposts regarding the ‘right’ way are continuously being moved.

On that first point, readers would be aware of the surfeit of publicity regarding the unwanted looks and attention that women attract from men, and how such behaviour threatens and disgusts them (example here).

And then every now and then there is an incident that serves as a lightning rod and focus for demands for action. Let’s look at the example of THAT infamous New York street harassment video …

In February 2017 another fake street harassment video emerged … ‘Video of raging female cyclist lashing out at van full of catcalling builders ‘revealed as FAKE’ as company pledges to launch internal probe’

In November 2017 another such fake street harassment video emerged … “Woman attacks man with her breasts for ‘staring at her’”

In early December 2018 an article appeared entitled ‘Is Australia sexist? Documentary asks if men and women are equal in the 21st century‘ – and of course there’s a video of Aussie guys looking at, and calling out to, Aussie women. Bettina Arndt had earlier written an article about the set-up that was the original ‘study’ in The Australian. Now take a look at this video critique of the SBS program.

I’d suggest now reading the two articles below, which set the scene quite well for the additional sources that follow:

The Sexodus, Part 1: The men giving up on women and checking out of society (4 December 2014) with related discussion thread here, and The Sexodus, Part 2: Dishonest Feminist panics leave male sexuality in crisis (9 December 2014) … and here is a link to a related YouTube video

And now feel free to peruse these further sources regarding the increasingly fraught issue of public interaction between the genders:

Men Are Sharing Difficult Parts Of Modern Dating, And As A Woman, I Never Thought Of Some Of These (9 September 2024)

‘Not OK’: Fitness influencer Laura Henshaw calls out ‘icky’ car act (7 August 2024)

Are many/most men worried concerning communicating with their wives/partners? (26 July 2024) Video

Expat reveals why dating in Australia is so different (22 July 2024)

‘Who approved this?’: Dating app Bumble cops backlash over new billboards (14 May 2024) Expecting women to make the move is downright unacceptable, because …

New Zealand woman slams Aussie dating culture (27 April 2024) Entitled? Not much

‘You need to start talking about it’: Erin Molan calls on Australian men to speak up about domestic violence (26 April 2024)

British expat’s ‘problem’ with Aussie men (25 February 2024)

Harry Connick Jr’s daughters reveal the problem with Aussie men (11 February 2024)

Man’s gym act exposes ‘insane’ problem women face while working out (19 January 2024)

Manchester bar reveals set of quirky rules that bans men from approaching women – and advises female customers to ‘lift their chin and ignore’ anyone who tries to chat them up (30 November 2023)

Response to video of man ‘admiring’ woman reveals wider issue (27 November 2023) A man doesn’t even need to speak to be of concern. Utterly ridiculous

Horrifyingly common act against women exposed by text trend (26 October 2023) OK, so this one isn’t about talking – it’s about texting. But your face will be in your palm in 3-2-1. Say anything bad about women and you’re not just a misogynist – you’re frightening! Nothing even vaguely uncomplimentary is said about women … presumably perfect already.

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(Source of the study extract noted above)

Street harassment: A missing piece in measuring women’s public safety (26 February 2024)

What women define as sexual harassment or catcalling is often biased, studies show (13 October 2023) Reddit MensRights discussion thread

It’s over. I got expelled for approaching girls (14 October 2023) Video

Woman shares clever reverse psychology trick to get guys to leave you alone in bars (21 July 2023) USA

Commuters send 1500 alerts to sex crime, abuse service (11 July 2023)

Woman’s note to ‘cute’ plane guy goes viral (4 July 2023) “The bold flier told her followers that the sky-high story was proof that people should go after what they want”. No, not “people” … just women.

‘He just kept going’ – why you might snap back, freeze or ignore street harassment (16 June 2023)

Sad reason women are wearing a baggy T-shirt on public transport (24 May 2023)

A man spoke to a woman in a car park. The horror. The horror (30 March 2023) Video

Men in Scotland who loudly boast about sexual conquests in public could face jail (8 March 2023)

A colleague at work (27m) of 1 year refuses to socialise with me (24f) or any of the women in our office (11 February 2023) Reddit ‘relationship advice’ discussion thread – good reader comments! Plus here is a link to a related Twitter discussion thread.

The toxic women of gym TikTok (7 February 2023)

Twitter thread concerning a girl attending a gym who claims some fellow is watching her. Read the thread and you’ll note that the two main female characters featured in it – complaining about being harassed/objectified – both have OnlyFans accounts #FacePalm. Here’s the original MSM item (23 January 2023).

Assessing #MeToo, Five years on (28 November 2022)

Women gets angry when man speaks to her in the queue for the supermarket checkout (25 September 2022) Video

Half of single men avoid interacting with women out of fear of being seen as ‘creepy’ (28 September 2022)

What guy wouldn’t want it? (2022) Journal of Social Issues. Recommended reading

Brisbane women stunned by ‘persistent’ US men while travelling (15 September 2022) Men criticized for approaching too much and not enough – all in the one article

Why It’s Never a Good Idea to Demonize The Consumer (13 September 2022)

‘Never OK’: Fury at ‘disgusting’ response to supermarket assault (26 August 2022) Another bogus video to stir the anti-male pot and generate traffic to her social media site/s? Time will tell

Sydney nightclub bans staring without getting prior ‘verbal consent’ (25 August 2022)

Watch Woman Falsely Accuses Blind Surfer Pete Gustin Of Staring At Her In The Gym, Video Goes Viral (15 August 2022) OK, so it’s about looking, not talking

Men who sexually harass women in the street with unwanted sexual comments could face up to two years in jail under proposed new offence (13 August 2022) UK and Blind man kicked out of a gym for ‘staring’ at a woman (20 June 2023)

Woman left shaken after being chased by man during her run (10 August 2022)

Aussie men seriously lack game compared to American men (4 August 2022) And here’s one for the ‘men should talk to women’ camp. But only if they’re cool.

Tory leadership: Liz Truss promises new offence of street harassment (28 July 2022)

Creepy way man got woman’s number off her dog’s collar (8 June 2022) Again, only creepy when a man does this. Especially a poor/unattractive man.

Catcalls, homophobia and racism: we studied why people (and especially men) engage in street harassment (2 June 2022)

Male customer’s surprise reaction after waitress makes move on him (28 May 2022) Contrast this with the 19 March article listed below

Woman admits she regrets her ‘d**k magnet’ tattoo (18 May 2022)

Woman kicks sand in man’s face after ‘invasive’ beach act (11 April 2022)

Woman orders coffee at Starbucks and finds creepy secret note on the cup from barista (19 March 2022)

Instagram ‘socialite’ and OnlyFans star Casie Caldwell drunkenly spat on police (12 March 2022)

Former Ms Great Britain reveals she can’t get a date (27 February 2022) She never gets chatted up. 100 dates were unfruitful. It’s all men’s fault.

Honey Badger Radio: Why Men Won’t Approach Women & What We Need To Do About It (18 January 2022)

The yin of being looked at and the yang of looking. — The Centre for Male Psychology (2 September 2021)

Is Flirting the Next Victim of Millennials’ Metaphorical Murder Spree? | Opinion (newsweek.com) (29 June 2021)

The four words all women have used to get rid of unwanted advances (24 March 2021)

6 Reasons men need to stop making the first move in dating (7 March 2021)

The pandemic of male loneliness (24 February 2021)

Men going their own way: the rise of a toxic male separatist movement (26 August 2020) You’d think they’d be happy if men went away, but nah. Funny thing that.

Are masks giving men a license to leer? Women report a rise in ‘aggressive eye contact’ (28 July 2020)

Police issue warrant for Louisiana woman, 29, who ‘shot her boyfriend because he refused to argue with her’, leaving him in critical condition (20 July 2020)

Women are fun (July 2020) Video

‘Shy and awkward’ student, 19, who googled ‘how to make a friend’ assaults schoolgirl, 17 (11 October 2019)

Men: Before you tell a joke/give advice/pay a compliment. A twitter stream from a woman with advice for men (4 September 2019)

Danish women prefer wolf-whistles to feminism (11 May 2019)

The Victorian Government (Australia) has issued a video highlighting the horror of women receiving unwanted attention on public transport, and – surprise surprise – calling on men to step in and deal with other men (9 April 2019). ‘Independent Man’ responds to this rather well with his own video.

Of course governments never step in and ask women to deal with other women who transgress one ‘rule’ or another, err like sexually abusing students for example. Because that would be hateful or misogynistic or something bad. Or something.

Unsafe in the City – A Tale of Five Cities, by Plan International (October 2018) This pro-feminist ‘study’ unsurprisingly completely ignores not just all the people who manage to remain safe in the city, but also both male victimisation and female violence.

Young woman was handed a note on the train (October 2018) Video

Flight etiquette: I broke the one rule of long-haul flying (5 September 2018) But of course the guy in the plane seat next to you wants to get to know you

#MeToo Backlash In Corporate Canada Sees Women Locked Out (2 August 2018)

Judge approves lawsuit against Mizzou for punishing student who asked woman on a date (17 July 2018) USA

Men, take heed from the Victorians: don’t hound women in public (31 May 2018) Clearly no need to consider inappropriate behaviour by women, or the steps needed to address this.

Confusing sexual harassment with flirting hurts women (14 November 2017) by Cathy Young

Op-Ed: Is ‘Weinsteining’ getting out of hand? (1 November 2017) by Cathy Young

Man jailed for creepily staring at Glasgow pharmacy assistant through window (27 October 2017) UK

Be sure not to initiate a conversation with a woman you don’t know on the bus (13 July 2017)

In the U.K, women more than men perceive wolf-whistling as a compliment (7 July 2017)

Trump did to Merkel what men do to women all the time, by Jessica Valenti (March 2017)

Australian Bar Prohibits Men From Approaching Women, Must Speak ‘As They Would to Their Mother’ (23 February 2017)

Sexless in Silicon Valley: why nobody’s getting laid in America’s tech hub (19 January 2017) Not much sex or dating taking place and, of course, the blame is placed at the feet of socially inept men because …

Harassment of women by men at Summernats cannot be excused or ignored, by Clementine Ford (16 January 2017) Australia. This article includes the statement:

“Why are the events like the mass groping at Cologne used as an example of how immigrant men pose a threat to “our women”, yet white Australian men acting in a similar fashion at a car show is dismissed as “boys being boys”?”

And this with no evidence provided – aside from two vague anecdotal accounts – that any man laid a hand on a woman at Summernats 2017. No mention, for example, of any actual police reports. In fact, I have been advised that in the entire 30 year history of Summernats there have been only two reported sexual assaults. And yet this being, allegedly, in a “similar fashion” to the outrage that occurred on NYE in Cologne? Talk about a reach!

These two pictures were both taken at Summernats, guess which one featured in Clementine’s article?

Longing for the male gaze (21 September 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

I’m a feminist who’s attracted to ‘manly men’ (13  September 2016)

Lads! Britain needs you to do your duty and get flirting (24 August 2016) UK

Reader’s Comment: Nottinghamshire men must stop looking at women (17 July 2016)

A life time of leers (5 June 2016) Reddit discussion thread with linked article

Where Did All The Chat Up Lines Go? Why We Miss Them… (27 November 2015)

“The days when men could be bothered to try and muster any sort of conversational gambit are gone” (6 December 2015) Reddit discussion thread and linked article

Model has ribs removed to transform into real-life Jessica Rabbit (27 November 2015)

Black Man Asks Woman For Phone Number In Oakland, She Posts Flyer About It And Calls Cops (19 October 2015)

Disgusted father tells woman on train to sit down (24 February 2012) Video Canada

Barrister names and shames senior lawyer who sent her a ‘sexist’ LinkedIn message (8 September 2015) Quite barking mad. And here is some ever-articulate commentary on the matter from ‘The Other McCain‘ (12 September 2015)

Chrissie Hynde was right about rape. Now feminists want to silence her (31 August 2015)

‘Ghosted’ by my boyfriend: After four years together he left and I never heard from him again (28 August 2015) Stick around after break-up (creepy stalker) or move on and start a clean page (ghoster/thoughtless cad)

Feminists, and how to avoid them (12 August 2015)

Young women need to ‘tone down’…really? (1 August 2015) See readers comments

“In honesty, I didn’t make my sign”: SlutWalk revisited (Edmonton edition) (12 August 2015)

Guardian Author Who Called for End of Catcalling now Regrets she is not Catcalled (21 July 2015)

OK Cupid Data on Sex, Desirability, and Age (3 July 2015)

Finding a boyfriend cured my crippling loneliness, but left me feeling a bad feminist (23 June 2015) and related reddit mensrights discussion thread

The trials and tribulations of a token pretty girl (28 December 2014) and related reddit menrights discussion thread

Alex from Target: The other side of fame (12 November 2014) Objectified and harassed, but wait! How can this be? (Alex is a boy)

She explains why so many women don’t say ‘Hello.’ The reason is absolutely chilling (1 November 2014)

Rise of the Feminist Tinder-Creep-Busting Web Vigilante (27 October 2014) Read those comments and feel the frustration and anger. Next stop MGTOW

Boycott college women while in college (24 October 2014)

HuffPo and Salon slut-shame men (14 October 2014)

Vancouver men, please stop harassing women (12 October 2014)

On Not Approaching Women At All  (9 September 2014)

Fallout from campus sexual assault hysteria: College men now suspicious of women (22 August 2014)

Read transcript of an item on a US TV show entitled ‘Libs want men to stop looking at women

Feminism versus Miley Cyrus (20 April 2014)

Getting over feeling invisible after 50 (23 December 2013)

Breast enlargement remains the most popular procedure (UK) and in the United States  too (2013). In fact if you want a good chuckle then google on ‘feminism and breast augmentation’ and see the fur fly as feminists who have had their chests packed with silicon try to rationalise their decision (“I did it for myself, really”). Of course you did.

See the readers comment by ‘Okrahead’ about the spandex ‘lady’ in the gym in this article

Learn how approaching women in a nightclub is “harassment” perpetrated by “creeps”. Seriously guys, why bother? Interesting related discussion can be found here

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602965/Men-try-kiss-10-minutes-meeting-Meet-tattooed-stunner-whos-popular-date-OKCupid-having-choice-men-ruining-love-life.html

In-depth: How We Waded Into The Sexual Harassment Quagmire — And How to Wade Out: One Man’s View (11 December 2011) Recommended reading from a big-picture viewpoint

The new math of campus (5 February 2010) Aw gee, not enough guys to go around on campus … and that was 2010 and there’s even less guys on campus now! ROTFL! Take a bow, feminism

And check this out too: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/topless-women-protestors-surprised-upset-as-men-show-up-with-cameras/story-e6frfku0-1225850121971

Read article entitled “Men here, they don’t even turn their head to look at you.” Awww. Gee, I wonder why this would happen … maybe because of attitudes like those expressed by the wimmin quoted below …

And here we read that British women don’t want to look at themselves in the mirror

Conclusion

Men and women are individuals whose position with regards to interacting with other individuals is influenced by many variables including age, relationship status, sexual orientation, cultural background, etc. There is no ‘one size fits all’.

Men are criticized both for approaching women, and for not approaching women. Some women live for male attention, others want none, with the remainder happy to engage at the times, and in the manner, of their choosing. Oh, and an individual woman’s position may change on a daily basis and/or depending upon the perceived attractiveness of the male who approaches her.

As women do not hold up signs advising of their own particular preferences, even well-meaning men – who comprise the overwhelming majority – are in a constant state of uncertainty, unease and frustration. Maybe if all women could organise themselves onto the same page, and circulate universal guidelines, things might be different. But we all know that’s not going to happen.

Feminists stoking the fire of misunderstanding and paranoia between the genders sure doesn’t help things, and only serves to propel ever more men towards a MGTOW lifestyle.

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Elsewhere in this blog you might be interested in reading:

Girls showing their bits = empowerment? patriarchal exploitation? self-indulgence? other?
The ‘Marriage Strike’ and MGTOW
On privilege, respect, and entitlement
Fembots may prove to be a game changer
Harassment and discrimination in business and the workplace: Surprise, surprise, it goes both ways
When men have a daughter (another tale of male-blaming and silencing)

Only men ogle – Yeah right!

Now of course one of the very many brickbats thrown at men is that we like to check out the bodies of members of the opposite sex. Women, so it goes, are not into such slobbering animal-like antics.

Well some guys set out to explore that hypothesis and generated some troubling results. You can read about it here:

http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/crotch-cam-proves-that-women-are-pervs-too/

And this is how the feminists sought to blame the intrepid researchers, and to rationalise the subject womens behaviour: http://jezebel.com/5840791/cosmo-for-guys-creates-crotch-cam-to-catch-womens-wandering-eyes

Not sure if this reddit discussion thread belongs here, but I will park it here for the time being. It is about the differences between men and women when it comes to evaluating the attractiveness of members of the other sex.

See also:

Video of UFC weigh-in girl sparks sexism row online (6 January 2016) Actual video here

He wants you (2 March 2015) Video

More on this topic later