‘Sunrise’ provides equal time for feminism and men’s rights

The ‘Weekend Sunrise’ show surprised and pleased by providing separate interviews with MRA Paul Elam and feminist Laci Green.

On Saturday morning there was an interview with Paul Elam

Paul discussed the fact that mens work/life choices are more limited than women, but most of the all-too-brief interview was taken up with a discussion of rape hysteria and the need to address the problem of rape in a more rigorous and fair-minded manner.

Reddit discussion thread here and here is an article about Paul’s interview

On Sunday morning it was the turn of Laci Green

The intro provided by Andrew O’Keefe – and his comments throughout the interview left absolutely no doubt where his allegiance lies … “The history of feminism is long, strong and proud …. in fact (if not for feminism) married women, you would still be the property of your husband“. Oh please.

Feminism is wonderful – just badly misrepresented, feminism is not about hating men, feminism is just about equality and stopping sexual objectification, blah blah blah. Keep moving folks, nothing new to be seen/heard here.

The boobs are used to sell everything …” Yes indeed Andrew, and that’s nowhere clearer than watching Laci’s efforts on Youtube.

Reddit discussion thread here which features the comment:

“[Laci] is what we call one of the “Aren’t Like That” feminists that all the other feminists use to cover their bigotry. You want to know what kind of person Laci Green is? Let me tell you.

First, I have to explain a few things. In the hood, we like to have parties. We like to get rowdy, smoke some herb, get crunk. We like to play music loud and act a fool. The problem with this is, the cops show up. Now, I’m not sure you all know what its like having the cops show up, but some people at this party have illicit drugs, or arrest warrants, or just no fucking sense. So someone has to talk to the cops. You always want to have a well spoken, easygoing, friendly person at your parties so that THEY can talk to the cops and make sure none of the other people at the party get into any shit.

Thats who feminists like Laci Green are. They’re the person Feminism has answering the door when society comes knocking and wants to know what’s going on.”

More about Laci Green here and here

(Postscript 4 December 2018: Bettina Arndt, Sam Armitage and Nat Barr stirred up the feminists with this discussion of the #MeToo phenomenon. And then – of course – a follow-up article about the outrage, entitled ‘Sunrise cops criticism over one-sided #MenToo discussion’)

On the issue of consent

Consent to sexual activity has become an extremely problematic issue, and nowhere is this more obvious than on North American university campuses.

The following references will help bring you up to speed:

Drunk sex and consent, by Bettina Arndt (14 June 2024)

Coitus interruptus, by Bettina Arndt (1 February 2024)

Jordan Peterson speaks about the sexual revolution and consent (March 2023) Video

“Among older adults, twice as many men as women report ever using pressure or force to have sex with someone. Among younger adults, twice as many women as men report every using pressure or force to have sex with someone.” (Link to Tweet) tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.108

Can a man say no to sex? (2020) USA Video

I found a woman who speaks fluent ‘Womanese’ (13 February 2022) Video

Mandatory consent education is a huge win for Australia – but consent is just one small part of navigating relationships (21 February 2022)

Weaponizing our criminal justice system against men – YouTube (23 June 2021)

Consent Isn’t Everything and Sex Is Not Like Tea (19 October 2018)

A Terrible College Case Shows the High Cost of ‘Believe Women’, by David French (13 October 2018)

Junior doctor convicted of indecent assault for grabbing and bruising woman’s breasts during consensual sex (12 October 2017) UK. And so now consent is dissected down to consent for specific acts.

From Little Big Lies to Broadchurch and Doctor Foster to Fearless, why do the makers of TV dramas hate men? (7 October 2017)

Girl thinks if you regret having sex it means you’ve been raped, gets a perfect lesson on consent (27 September 2017) Reddit discussion thread and linked article

David French identifies the root cause of sexual assaults on university campuses (18 September 2017)

The Uncomfortable Truth About Campus Rape Policy (6 September 2017) USA

Sexual consent courses should teach ‘don’t get raped’ as well as ‘don’t rape’ (3 September 2017) Australia. Video from Bettina Arndt

Sexual Consent – Yes, No, Maybe (1 September 2017) by Bettina Arndt

“These “don’t-rape” courses have no interest in teaching women to take proper ownership of the decision-making process that leads to a yes or no, let alone encouraging them to express those wishes clearly rather than keep men guessing.

Back in the 1990s I made a programme on sexual consent – Yes, No, Maybe – as a guest reporter on Four Corners. I had no trouble finding women who acknowledged they deliberately drink to avoid making decisions around consent. Women who admitted to playing games where they said no but wanted men to push through that resistance – a popular theme in hugely popular bodice ripper novels.

None of these complexities are addressed in the sexual consent programmes”

Female student has sex with dunk male. Guess who got accused of rape and expelled? (17 March 2017)

Female Drake U. Student Initiates Sex with Incapacitated Male, Lies About Key Details. Guess Who Got Expelled? (14 March 2017) with related Reddit discussion thread here.

When a girl on the pull leads a drunk boy to her bed, I call that consent – Sunday Times (12 March 2017) Reddit discussion thread and linked article

This Man Was Convicted Of Rape After He Removed His Condom Without Consent (14 January 2017) Related Reddit discussion thread here

Freshers walk out of sexual consent talk after activist encourages boycott (27 September 2016) UK

Lying is a form of rape? How many men have you slept with, ladies? (7 September 2016)

Men Will Face 3-8 Years in Prison for Sex With A Drunk Woman Under California’s New “Rape” Law (31 August 2016) Whilst the draft legislation refers to “person” rather than specifying gender, it will almost certainly only be applied by way of prosecuting men.

Berkeley feminist has sex without her partner’s enthusiastic affirmative consent. Pretends to be a victim of his objectification (1 July 2016) Reddit discussion thread with linked article.

Columbia student: The damage done by ‘Mattress Girl’ (17 June 2016)

Judge slams armed forces drinking culture after Royal Navy officer is cleared of raping drunken colleague following VE ball (7 June 2016)

4 Ways You Can Be Raped After You’ve Consented to Sex (16 May 2016)

How can I get my husband to be a caveman in bed? (25 April 2016)

The double standards of consent (6 February 2016)

Yes Means Yes – Until She Regrets It (14 January 2016)

Lawsuit: Student Bragged About Sleeping With Athletes, Then Got Them Expelled For Rape (7 January 2016) USA

Hannah Wallen rants about ‘enthusiastic consent’ with related reddit discussion thread here

The grrrls of the ’90s have given way to the uptight millennial women (22 November 2015) USA

Learning To Practice Consent As A Straight Woman (17 September 2015) with reddit discussion thread here.

Sexual grievance lobby recoils at app designed to protect innocent men (16 July 2015)

Sex on Campus Is Impossible – The complicated reality of consent (July/August 2015 issue of The Atlantic)

Sexual offence law overhaul to address victim injustices (29 June 2015) Victoria, Australia

Is there a college “rape culture,” or are too many college women mistaking consent for sexual assault? (26 June 2015)

Study shows rape rates sharply reduced by teaching women to say “no”–which suggests that it really wasn’t rape to begin with (17 June 2015)

Courts ‘should assume women can’t consent to sex when drunk’: Rape report’s controversial proposal (3 June 2015) and related reddit mensrights discussion thread

Woman who consented to sex claims she was ‘raped by rape culture’ (8 May 2015)

The Guardian: If a Woman Consents to Sex with a Man, It’s Likely Still Rape (23 April 2015)

Belinda Brown: Feminists have dismantled the social conventions that protected women against rape (21 April 2015) UK

Three men jailed for raping drunk woman (14 February 2015) …

“During cross-examination about whether she could remember anything, the woman told the court: “Yes, it could all have happened consensually and I don’t remember it.””

Wendy Murphy: Sometimes “Yes” really meant “No” (27 February 2015)

Australian court rules that consent for sex obtained by fraud constitutes rape (6 February 2015) Article and linked reddit mensrights discussion thread

Blond-haired Caucasian: Deepak Dhankar’s online dating lies lead to sex-fraud charges (11 February 2015)

Why One Male College Student Abandoned Affirmative Consent (20 October 2014)

Girls are drinking themselves blotto precisely in order to lower their inhibitions for casual sex, then regretting it afterwards (20 October 2014) Reddit mensrights discussion thread and linked article

Is the left losing its mind over campus sex? (16 October 2014)

Women Are Too Weak to Say No to Sex (14 October 2014)

Affirmative consent: A crime against liberty (9 October 2014)

I hate it when men ask if they can kiss me, and I blame feminism (7 August 2014)

My bad sex wasn’t rape (22 March 2013)

“Getting Away” With Hating It: Consent in the Context of Sex Work (21 March 2013)

Women need to be educated about sexual consent, right now they aren’t (15 June 2014)

Sex ed teacher Leah Bakely teaches her students how to make false rape accusations (26 April 2014)

Raping Logic: Laci Green redefines rape (9 April 2014)

McCaskill endorses loopy version of sexual consent (24 June 2014)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGEGfa9PDRg

Occidental expels student for rape under standard so low that the accuser could have been found guilty too (4 June 2014)

Wait a second, did Amy Schumer rape a guy? (5 May 2014)

Rape, rape-rape and sexual assault at colleges‘ (28 April 2014)

Update: Judge expresses doubt that mentally handicapped man could give consent‘ (26 April 2014)

The crime of regret (12 February 2014)

http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/no-means-no-sure-whatever/

http://m.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/article17158564.ece?service=mobile (‘Can she consent to sex after drinking?’)

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/211ezk/amrista_attempts_to_do_a_takedown_lol_of_warren/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3379584

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/22nz5v/no_means_no_unless_youre_a_man_in_which_case_no/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

http://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/men/no-means-yes

http://www.rooshv.com/when-no-means-yes (Quote: “Anyone who thinks “no means no” is true has never seduced a woman. Period.”)

4 ways parents teach kids that consent doesn’t matter (1 September 2013)

Warren Farrell’s notorious comments on date rape: Not any more defensible in context than out of it (3 May 2013) Don’t say I don’t provide links to alternative views

Disgruntled husband sends wife spreadsheet of all the times she turned down sex (21 July 2014) with related discussions here and here, and of course let’s not overlook the feminist view of the matter.

“There is no such thing as consent because patriarchy.
Some girls require years of reeducation before they realize that while they were screaming, “Yeeeeeeeeha! Ride that cowboy!” they were being raped.
Because patriarchy is just that awesomely powerful” (Source)

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