What did you call me? On labelling and language in gender discourse

One of the many feminist criticisms of the mens rights movement, and particularly MHRA web sites like ‘A Voice for Men’, is that they are characterised by the frequent use of descriptors of women that are offensive and sexist … terms such as sluts or whores.

Personally I have noticed that there is surprisingly little usage of such terms in MRA sites or blogs. Moreover when such terms do appear they are generally found within comments contributed by readers (some of whom are trolls), rather than in the body of posts or articles themselves. Such put-downs also almost invariably relate to feminists rather than women per se.

It was with interest then that I came across this study ‘Cursing in English on Twitter‘ (see section entitled ‘Cursing Vs Gender’ on page 8). Granted, the study wasn’t about MRA/feminist sites, but the findings are still interesting. The study found, for example, that the the use of terms ‘bitch’ ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ by women was more prevalent than the level of use by men.

This post looks at the issue of online harassment, whilst in another blog post I discuss the terms gender traitor, white knight and mangina.

Another related term that has come to be used increasingly widely is ‘cuck‘, which is  the shortened version of ‘cuckold‘. The common meaning seems to be a person (generally male) who does the bidding of another whilst not truly invested in that person’s (or groups) cause, for example a politician who supports feminist programs out of fear of castigation and/or in the hope of winning the ‘women’s vote’.

See also:

Masculinity and Misogyny in the Digital Age (2016)

‘Lord protect me from easily offended snowflake girls’ (17 October 2016) Ireland

Women most likely to use misogynistic language on Twitter, report finds (17 October 2016) with related Reddit discussion thread here

David Leyonhjelm: NSW Senator lodges complaint over journalist’s claim he is an ‘angry white male’ (15 August 2016)

Female judge stuns courtroom by telling racist thug: ‘You’re a bit of a c*** yourself’ (11 August 2016)

Are we seriously expected to take any liberal feminist seriously? (10 August 2016)

Corporate Cucks … and the language police who protect and serve them (5 August 2016)

The ‘C’ word (‘cuck’) (19 May 2016) Australia. Reddit discussion thread

“What’s mansplaining?” Senator Mitch Fifield offended by Senator Katy Gallagher’s allegation (10 February 2016) Australia. Video

Why Do Feminists And Social Justice Warriors Use So Much Profanity? (2 February 2016)

Is Kerri Sackville a slut? (18 January 2016)

Manspreading, Transgender and Shaming … How the Left Wing controls language (6 November 2015)

Mansults: the put-downs that are always levelled at straight white males (19 September 2015)

Mean Girls: Why the Only People Women Should Fear Online Are Other Women (10 August 2015)

Lena Dunham: The Expression ‘TMI’ Is Sexist (2 October 2014) USA

Ironic misandry: Why feminists pretending to hate men isn’t funny (12 August 2014)

http://m.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/373355/you-cant-whine-your-way-better-world-jim-geraghty

http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/dr-paul-on-the-bitch-double-standard/

http://uberfeminist.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/feminists-support-rape-culture.html

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Nice guys, nice guys™ and the friendzone

For the time being this post will simply consist of a collection of links on the above topic – I’ll return later to add further order and reason …

Invisible Men – The Red Pill Interviews University Girls (5 September 2017) Australian video

We Need Fraternity Men to Do a Lot More Than ‘Walk a Mile in Her Shoes’ (4 June 2017) This theme, that even men sympathetic to feminism can’t do right, is often encountered. For example, scroll down this page to ‘Sydney Girls High’

On the friend zone, nice guys, and both almost always being a dude (22 April 2017) Reddit discussion thread

David Schwimmer’s sexual harassment films are good. But this is women’s work, by Van Badham (12 April 2017) Men’s job is to listen and obey – not talk or write.

When men claim to be feminists just to abuse women, by Jane Gilmore (15 March 2017) Australia

Men get no pats on the back for basic human decency (14 March 2017) Australia

Sydney Girls High School prefects hit back after Sydney Boys’ viral video (13 March 2017)

What nice men don’t say to nice women (13 April 2016) Video

Why women can’t complain about men (4 December 2016) Video

Beware these 10 types of feminist men (8 August 2016)

Why I’ll never date another male feminist, by Tiana Lowe (August 2016)

Feminism is an inferiority complex and white knights are enablers (11 August 2016)

Nice guys finish first: empathetic boys attract more close female friends (16 June 2016) Predictable offering from ‘The Conversation’

25 new ways to say ‘no’ to feminists (7 June 2016)

http://www.drglover.com/no-more-mr-nice-guy/the-book.html and https://7chan.org/lit/src/Robert_Glover_-_No_More_Mr_Nice_Guy.pdf

On @MattMcGorry, @MeghanEMurphy and the ‘Male Feminist’ Problem (23 May 2016)

Forget alpha males. Betas are the men of the future (22 May 2016) Australia

What nice men don’t say to nice women (14 April 2016) Reddit discussion thread and linked video

Why I’m wary of men who call themselves feminists (14 March 2016)

Why women slag men off for ‘being rubbish’ – and what you should say in response (11 March 2016)

Milo: ‘Male Feminism Is a Sort of Disease’ (23 February 2016) Scroll down to see great comment by ‘David Power’

Pro Tip: Don’t Be a ‘Feminist Man’ (15 February 2016) Oww, the claws are out in this article by Robert Stacy McCain

Amazing read “The Alpha Widow”. Long read but worth it (6 November 2015) Reddit discussion thread

Women’s Greatest Problem: The Myth of the Submissive Alpha Male (25 June 2015)

Masculinity, Positive Masculinity, and the White Knight as a Perversion of Masculinity (9 May 2015)

Radicalising the romanceless (31 August 2014) ** Lots of choice examples of  feminist disdain and mockery of nice guys **

Why great husbands are being abandoned (13 August 2014) Huffington Post article and linked reddit discussion thread

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/02/22/relationshipstrategies/how-women-made-good-men-passe-and-sabotaged-their-own-futures/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_guy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_zone

The Friend Zone – Land of the “Nice Guys” (27 July 2014)

Study finds that men like nice women, but not the other way around (25 July 2014)

Yes girls, there is a FriendZone (9 June 2014) Video

Dear Girls Who Are (Finally) Ready To Date Nice Guys: We Don’t Want You Anymore (22 April 2014) Phew, over 7,400 comments!

It Pisses Me Off When Men Call Themselves Feminists (8 August 2013)

http://theconversation.com/strut-your-stuff-how-rockstars-and-peacocks-attract-the-ladies-29045?: Article about the types of guys found attractive to women, and which includes the statement “studies suggest that higher levels of narcissism in men correlated with improved prospects in courting a woman.”

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/29z5zf/can_we_have_a_serious_discussion_about_nice_guys/

http://siryouarebeingmocked.tumblr.com/post/83262651455/the-most-common-and-conspicuous-attribute-of-the

http://www.dailycal.org/2012/07/26/why-good-girls-like-bad-boys/

Okay, MGTOW, I get it now. If this is the option, I’d pass too‘ by Janet Bloomfield (22 April 2014) with a related discussion at reddit/mensrights here and follow-up post here

http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/lax/483318927.html

http://www.returnofkings.com/29989/men-should-not-help-sluts

The normalisation of the trashy single mother

http://www.christophercantwell.com/2014/02/14/re-the-problem-with-nice-guys/

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/22rxm9/of_course_if_it_was_mocking_desperate_women/

The More Chores A Husband Does, The More Likely The Marriage Will End In Divorce (28 September 2012)